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Using Treliving math shouldn't Roy be at least worth what he gifted to Philly for Laughton? I'm guessing the return is going to suck. Or maybe I'm trying some reverse psychology.

What I think is nuts is any talk of a mcmann extension. But why do I feel like that's more likely to happen than any good trades.

Because he's smooth.

I particularly agree with the notion that Treliving has no business managing another NHL team. But what I'm finding annoying is why are the leafs where GMs come to die. JFJ, Burke, Fletcher, Nonis and soon Treliving. So many come to the leafs, fuck up the team, and then never get another GM job.

Goaltending is the hardest position to fill. They've been looking for a real #1 since Belfour. Every GM since has struck out on goalies.

Sure but I'd say he did more good trades than bad and I don't see any franchise altering trades in his repertoire. What I also appreciated is that he didn't hesitate to pivot on a fuck up. Look he wasn't perfect but he was definitely better than the period between Quinn and Lou. I really...

Didn't Pittsburgh put him on waivers last year and no one touched him?

I still don't understand how the leafs are better off without Dubas and Keefe. I wasn't the biggest Keefe fan but at least he had an entertaining hockey style. And Dubas, I truly believe had a plan to pivot. I know people like to shit on him, but I think for the most part he was a smart guy...

That's true too. Hadn't thought of that either. Speaking of jarry, I'm really still surprised that there was no salary retention with that trade.

Yeah good point. I hadn't thought that far ahead.

I agree but I don't trust Treliving with any moves of consequence.

I would love if they found a way to ship him to Edmonton. Although I don't think they're stupid enough to take on a 4 year commitment. I'd almost be willing to accept jarry in exchange. Only 2 years left on his contract.

He's one guy I would keep. You know how hard it is to find a goalie? The leafs haven't had a homegrown goalie since Potvin. And the one they did get, they threw away in one of the worst trades in franchise history. They could have got something for stolarz had they not signed him to that...

It's seems the czar of the board of peace and famous ender of 8 wars has started a new war.

Always fun to get destroyed by the sens.

I agree in the sense that they can't touch Matthews or Nylander or send away any picks. But a sell off of whatever else anyone can handle. Even that idiot nonis was able to partially kick off a sell off.

Well according to Kypreos yesterday, no leafs player has any value. On a side note, it was kinda fun hearing McKee and Bourne's exasperation with Kypreos. I know it's all theatre and I'm falling for it, but those 2 do a good job putting up with that lunkhead.

I'd love to believe that but look at MLB. You've guys making half a billion and still trying to find loopholes to evade taxes. This is the Bettman NHL, nothing is going to change to help the teams that are financially stable at the expense of the Bettman expansion teams. The NHL is garbage...

What I don't understand is how TB can blow 5 picks on Jeannot and have no consequences. They just keep rolling.

I think I might actually hate this team more than the Jason Blake era teams. And I think that I may hate Treliving almost as much as JFJ.