Brad Richards Retires
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bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Yeah. Assuming Boyle doesn't change his mind (he's unofficially retired at the moment), the last remnants of the roster retired this off-season
So will Brad Richards be going to the HHOF? I've seen it suggested by quite a few people, but to me he falls right into that "Hall of very good" category of players that I don't think the HHOF was designed for.
932 points in 1126 NHL regular season games, so a ways away from being a PPG player. He only hit the PPG mark (or was very close to it) in 4 of his 16 seasons. Those don't really seem like Hall numbers to me.
2 Stanley Cups and a Conn Smyth seem to be the biggest reasons his supporters are using in this case, but I'm not so sure jumping on the Blackhawks bandwagon really makes someone Hall worthy.
932 points in 1126 NHL regular season games, so a ways away from being a PPG player. He only hit the PPG mark (or was very close to it) in 4 of his 16 seasons. Those don't really seem like Hall numbers to me.
2 Stanley Cups and a Conn Smyth seem to be the biggest reasons his supporters are using in this case, but I'm not so sure jumping on the Blackhawks bandwagon really makes someone Hall worthy.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I think he's another of the guys I've sort of mentioned where the question is going to be whether or not the HHOF decides on using a different standard for guys from the 2000's than they did on guys from the 70's and 80's. You're right, he's not a PPG player but he played in an era where, in a lot of years, being less than a PPG player could still have you in the top 15 or top 10 in scoring.
I think he comfortably exceeds the standard the hall set in electing guys like Ciccarelli and Anderson and guys like that but I'd be the first to say that's not the best standard to be using.
Nik the Trik said:
Just for my own curiosity I wanted to see where he finished in his 70+ point seasons:
02/03, 74 points, 24th
03/04, 79 points, T-9th
05/06, 91 points, 12th
06/07, 70 points, 44th
09/10, 91 points, 7th
10/11, 77 points, 10th
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
I'd say no. He had some very good years, but, he was never a guy that was really thought of as one of the elite players in the league or even the top 5 or so at his position. I'd agree that he's in that tier of players that falls right below the HHoF calibre guys. He might sneak in if there's a weak class, but, that's about it.
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Joe S. said:
Really? Neely had 395 goals 726 games. Nolan took 1200 games to reach 422 goals. Neely is 15th all-time in Goals per Game. He reached the fifty goal mark three times (and yes, I get that Nolan's career was mostly in the dead-puck era)... the last of which he reached in 44 games. Only Gretzky has done it in less games.
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Joe S. said:
I wouldn't argue much if you kept Neely out of the HOF, but I wouldn't argue a whole lot against him either- he's a "cusp" player where opinions will be mixed.
My point was Nolan is not on Neely's level and shouldn't get the same consideration.
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Nik the Trik said:
But none come close to 50 goals in 44 games... even "adjusted" he had 45 goals in 49 games that year. I'm not saying Nolan wasn't a very good player- he was. Neely was pretty special- the premier power forward of his time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_forward_(ice_hockey)
You won't find Nolan on any of these lists:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/36015-THNcom-Top-10-Alltime-power-forwards.html
http://www.si.com/nhl/2013/03/06/top-10-nhl-power-forwards
https://www.nhl.com/news/who-are-the-greatest-power-forwards-of-all-time/c-3268