Eakins to Edmonton confirmed
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Zee said:
Yep. This is a great fit for Eakins. Personally I didn't see the fit for him in New York, Vancouver, etc.
On the bright side (for the Leafs at least), I think Edmonton is such a gongshow right now he'll probably be fired next offseason and available for us then.
Foolish move for the Leafs not to at least try to retain Eakins with perhaps an assistant's job. Of course that would look to Carlyle like they were just waiting to replace him. Carlyle doesn't seem to work all that well at times with the young guys.
I think Edmonton might turn it around with him.
I think Edmonton might turn it around with him.
mr grieves
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As the twitters said:
"Every team with vacancy interested in Eakins but Leafs stick with the guy who thought Bozak > Grabbo, Holzer > Gardiner, McLaren > MacArthur"
"Every team with vacancy interested in Eakins but Leafs stick with the guy who thought Bozak > Grabbo, Holzer > Gardiner, McLaren > MacArthur"
Chev-boyar-sky
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oakl0008 said:
People are talking about Eakins as if he's the second coming of Scotty Bowman or something.
The Leafs have a Cup winning coach who put the team in the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons (or was it 9). Step back from the ledge.
Yes Eakins did a good job with the Marlies. What he will do at the NHL level is still very much up in the air. Edmonton seems like a good opportunity but the team can't play D. I wish him well, but realistically there wasn't really anything the organization could do.
Imagine if he'd been given the reins and the team didn't live up to expectations. Nonis would've looked like a complete idiot and probably (with good reason) been shown the door.
Nice article.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/06/08/eakins_move_to_oilers_leaves_big_hole_behind_marlies_bench_cox.html
I think DC is right. It's great for Eakins to have found a team that has parts he can work with and one where he can make a difference. For Toronto, I think that style of AHL coach should be what they look for in the future.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/06/08/eakins_move_to_oilers_leaves_big_hole_behind_marlies_bench_cox.html
I think DC is right. It's great for Eakins to have found a team that has parts he can work with and one where he can make a difference. For Toronto, I think that style of AHL coach should be what they look for in the future.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Zee said:
Or it'll be because their 3 #1 overall picks (something the Leafs organization doesn't have) took big strides or the front office made some changes in the off season to address the roster's weaknesses.
Eakins alone won't be the reason the Oilers make the playoffs.
I think most people would agree that the Oilers have a lot more high end talent than the Maple Leafs. If the Oilers make the playoffs it's because they finally put it together/realized their potential.
Green Leaf said:
That article brings up a pretty good point. For NHL coaching "prospects", the head coaching position of the Toronto Marlies is literally the best job in the world. Not just because of the resources that are available to whoever it is in that job, but because of the way the Toronto media can hype up whoever is coaching the team.
I don't think Carlyle is a very good coach, but I understand that there was no way Nonis could have fired him after making the playoffs. Eakins was as good as gone. The good news is that Toronto will have the pick of the litter when it comes to replacing him.
Chev-boyar-sky said:
Interesting, as I never said that Carlyle should be fired OR that Eakins was the second coming of anybody, let alone Bowman. That Nonis should have retained a great coach maybe as an assistant/ associate somehow and that his job this summer won't be easy makes me the Leaf fan on the ledge is all projection on your part bud.
If Eakins can do with this young Edmonton team what he did with the Marlies, they have a chance to make the playoffs. That's a pretty realistic assumption.
GhostofPotvin29
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Looks official:
maplesyrup
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Good for him. Well deserved.
Chev-boyar-sky
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oakl0008 said:Chev-boyar-sky said:
Interesting, as I never said that Carlyle should be fired OR that Eakins was the second coming of anybody, let alone Bowman. That Nonis should have retained a great coach maybe as an assistant/ associate somehow and that his job this summer won't be easy makes me the Leaf fan on the ledge is all projection on your part bud.
If Eakins can do with this young Edmonton team what he did with the Marlies, they have a chance to make the playoffs. That's a pretty realistic assumption.
You honestly think Eakins would've accepted an assistant job to stay in the Leafs organization over being the head coach of an up and coming young Oilers team?
I just don't see how the Leafs/Nonis could've "retained one of their great assets" outside of firing Carlyle and giving Eakins the gig. What did you have in mind, bud?
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Chev-boyar-sky said:oakl0008 said:Chev-boyar-sky said:
Interesting, as I never said that Carlyle should be fired OR that Eakins was the second coming of anybody, let alone Bowman. That Nonis should have retained a great coach maybe as an assistant/ associate somehow and that his job this summer won't be easy makes me the Leaf fan on the ledge is all projection on your part bud.
If Eakins can do with this young Edmonton team what he did with the Marlies, they have a chance to make the playoffs. That's a pretty realistic assumption.
You honestly think Eakins would've accepted an assistant job to stay in the Leafs organization over being the head coach of an up and coming young Oilers team?
I just don't see how the Leafs/Nonis could've "retained one of their great assets" outside of firing Carlyle and giving Eakins the gig. What did you have in mind, bud?
What I had in mind is when MLSE fired Burke and hired Nonis, they should have dismissed Carlyle too. Then Nonis would have gone with his own choice as coach. Firing the GM and leaving the coach intact is bas-ackwards.
Would Nonis have gone with Eakins as head coach? I'd say there's a pretty fair chance he would have. But even if he didn't, he would have his own guy running the show.
Of course Carlyle getting the Leafs into the playoffs makes it damn near impossible to fire him (though to hear some people on here talk, we only got in because of incredible luck that was SURE to have run out if the season had only been a few games longer, so maybe Carlyle had nothing to do with getting us into the playoffs).
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Chev-boyar-sky said:oakl0008 said:Chev-boyar-sky said:
Interesting, as I never said that Carlyle should be fired OR that Eakins was the second coming of anybody, let alone Bowman. That Nonis should have retained a great coach maybe as an assistant/ associate somehow and that his job this summer won't be easy makes me the Leaf fan on the ledge is all projection on your part bud.
If Eakins can do with this young Edmonton team what he did with the Marlies, they have a chance to make the playoffs. That's a pretty realistic assumption.
You honestly think Eakins would've accepted an assistant job to stay in the Leafs organization over being the head coach of an up and coming young Oilers team?
I just don't see how the Leafs/Nonis could've "retained one of their great assets" outside of firing Carlyle and giving Eakins the gig. What did you have in mind, bud?
What I had in mind is when MLSE fired Burke and hired Nonis, they should have dismissed Carlyle too. Then Nonis would have gone with his own choice as coach. Firing the GM and leaving the coach intact is bas-ackwards.
Would Nonis have gone with Eakins as head coach? I'd say there's a pretty fair chance he would have. But even if he didn't, he would have his own guy running the show.
Of course Carlyle getting the Leafs into the playoffs makes it damn near impossible to fire him (though to hear some people on here talk, we only got in because of incredible luck that was SURE to have run out if the season had only been a few games longer, so maybe Carlyle had nothing to do with getting us into the playoffs).
If we got into the playoffs this year and Eakins was coach his praises would be sung because it's Dallas Eakins. The measuring stick should at least be consistent.
At any rate, I think Nonis would've changed coaches if he felt Eakins gave the team a better chance to win and I'm sure they explored as many avenues as they could for retention. I severely doubt a GM wouldn't explore those options, especially in the offseason.
Its odd, I think sometimes we think the Leafs GMs are incompetent simply because they're Leafs GMs and essentially don't do anything related to their job. There's no way they didn't forecast this in some way.