Leafs and the Shootout

[L K]

12-13 - 0 wins 5 losses; 3 GF on 24 SA (29th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
11-12 - 4 wins 5 losses; 8 GF on 25 SA (18th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
10-11 - 5 wins 6 losses; 12 GF on 36 SA (10th); 14 GA on 36 SA (23rd)
09-10 - 4 wins 4 losses; 9 GF on 20 SA (3rd); 9 GA on 19 SA (29th)
08-09 - 6 wins 7 losses; 16 GF on 43 SA (9th); 19 GA on 42 SA (29th)
07-08 - 3 wins 4 losses; 8 GF on 24 SA (T-15th); 9 GA on 24 SA (21st)
06-07 - 4 wins 7 losses; 14 GF on 44 SA (16th); 16 GA on 43 SA (18th)
05-06 - 3 wins 7 losses; 4 GF on 24 SA (T-30th); 10 GA on 24 SA (23rd)
Total  - 29 wins 45 losses; 74 GF on 240 SA (31%); 96 GA on 236 SA (60% SV%)

The Leafs are tied for 19th overall in terms of career shootout scoring percentage at 31% in a 4-way tie with Anaheim, the Rangers, and Carolina.
The Leafs are ahead of Columbus, Boston (30%), Philadelphia (30%), Calgary, Washington, Montreal (28%), Tampa (27%) and Florida (24%).
New Jersey leads the NHL with a career 40% shooting percentage.
The league average is: 31.1%

The Leafs are T28th in terms of career SV% in the shootout in a tie with Calgary at 60%.  Only Philadelphia is worse at 57%.
The Rangers and Pittsburgh lead the league with a 74% SV%.
The league average is: 68.9%

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Disappointing to see they've never had a winning record in the shootout. 

 

[Zee]

12-13 - 0 wins 5 losses; 3 GF on 24 SA (29th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
11-12 - 4 wins 5 losses; 8 GF on 25 SA (18th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
10-11 - 5 wins 6 losses; 12 GF on 36 SA (10th); 14 GA on 36 SA (23rd)
09-10 - 4 wins 4 losses; 9 GF on 20 SA (3rd); 9 GA on 19 SA (29th)
08-09 - 6 wins 7 losses; 16 GF on 43 SA (9th); 19 GA on 42 SA (29th)
07-08 - 3 wins 4 losses; 8 GF on 24 SA (T-15th); 9 GA on 24 SA (21st)
06-07 - 4 wins 7 losses; 14 GF on 44 SA (16th); 16 GA on 43 SA (18th)
05-06 - 3 wins 7 losses; 4 GF on 24 SA (T-30th); 10 GA on 24 SA (23rd)
Total  - 29 wins 45 losses; 74 GF on 240 SA (31%); 96 GA on 236 SA (60% SV%)

The Leafs are tied for 19th overall in terms of career shootout scoring percentage at 31% in a 4-way tie with Anaheim, the Rangers, and Carolina.
The Leafs are ahead of Columbus, Boston (30%), Philadelphia (30%), Calgary, Washington, Montreal (28%), Tampa (27%) and Florida (24%).
New Jersey leads the NHL with a career 40% shooting percentage.
The league average is: 31.1%

The Leafs are T28th in terms of career SV% in the shootout in a tie with Calgary at 60%.  Only Philadelphia is worse at 57%.
The Rangers and Pittsburgh lead the league with a 74% SV%.
The league average is: 68.9%

Of note with those stats, this season is the worse since it was first introduced in 05-06 in terms of scoring in the shootout. Leafs had 4 goals in 24 attempts that season, which is slightly better than this year.

 

[hap_leaf]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

 

[Bullfrog]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score in the shootout.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

I've added something to your statement. Whoever has the best chance of scoring should go first. If Orr happens to be the best at shootouts, then he goes.

Given his many misses on the net, why ask Phaneuf to slap it on net? I'm sure he's got some decent moves that he can try.

 

[L K]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

Tyler Bozak - 7/13
Phil Kessel - 5/24

Why exactly do you want Kessel shooting over Bozak?

Here are the stats of guys currently on the Leafs roster with shootout attempts as a Leaf.

Connolly 2/2
Lupul 2/6
Kadri 3/12
Kulemin 6/18
Grabovski 3/14
Frattin 1/3
Phaneuf 0/1
Colborne 0/1
Franson 0/1
Van Riemsdyk 0/2
MacArthur 0/3

 

[ZBBM]

13-14 - SHOOTOUTS ABOLISHED
12-13 - 0 wins 5 losses; 3 GF on 24 SA (29th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
11-12 - 4 wins 5 losses; 8 GF on 25 SA (18th); 9 GA on 24 SA (20th)
10-11 - 5 wins 6 losses; 12 GF on 36 SA (10th); 14 GA on 36 SA (23rd)
09-10 - 4 wins 4 losses; 9 GF on 20 SA (3rd); 9 GA on 19 SA (29th)
08-09 - 6 wins 7 losses; 16 GF on 43 SA (9th); 19 GA on 42 SA (29th)
07-08 - 3 wins 4 losses; 8 GF on 24 SA (T-15th); 9 GA on 24 SA (21st)
06-07 - 4 wins 7 losses; 14 GF on 44 SA (16th); 16 GA on 43 SA (18th)
05-06 - 3 wins 7 losses; 4 GF on 24 SA (T-30th); 10 GA on 24 SA (23rd)
Total  - 29 wins 45 losses; 74 GF on 240 SA (31%); 96 GA on 236 SA (60% SV%)










Hope springs eternal.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Orr, McLaren and Fraser are the next three shooters in the shootout if I'm picking.

 

[drummond]

There is one player who may improve the Leafs record - Joe Colborne

12-13  4 GF on 8 SA (50%)
11-12  2 GF on 4 SA (50%)
10-11  3 GF on 4 SA (75%)

His record with Marlies (I do not have the numbers from Bruins AHL affiliate team) is 9 GF on 16 SA, which is incredible 56,3% succes rate. The sample size is pretty decent and he is very consistent in his effectivness, so it is no fluke. The guy can score in shootout.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

Tyler Bozak - 7/13
Phil Kessel - 5/24

Why exactly do you want Kessel shooting over Bozak?

Here are the stats of guys currently on the Leafs roster with shootout attempts as a Leaf.

Connolly 2/2
Lupul 2/6
Kadri 3/12
Kulemin 6/18
Grabovski 3/14
Frattin 1/3
Phaneuf 0/1
Colborne 0/1
Franson 0/1
Van Riemsdyk 0/2
MacArthur 0/3

I still do a double take when I see Franson's name on that list. 

 

[moon111]

I don't think goalies that rely on positioning do well in the shoot-out.  A shoot-out goalie has to be athletic to handle dekes.  Reimer is like a sheet of plywood that puts himself in the best position.  Gustavsson, if anything, was big and able to handle unpredictable chaos.  He's been in one shoot-out, making all three saves.
You need playmakers/deke'r in the shoot-out.  The Leafs don't have that.

 

[slapshot]

I think you go with your best scorers regardless and eventually the cream rises to the top.
Your goalie needs to stop on average at least two of three, which Reimer did tonight.
Your players need to score at least one of three, and you need to be at least 50 per cent in extra shots.

Personally, I HATE the shootout, regardless of what the Leafs have done.

What I'd like to see and would really be exciting, would be a 4-on-4 in overtime with NO GOALIES.

Empty net is always exciting, imagine two empty nets. Sounds a little crazy maybe, but no worse than these stupid shoot-outs.

 

[leafplasma]

I think you go with your best scorers regardless and eventually the cream rises to the top.
Your goalie needs to stop on average at least two of three, which Reimer did tonight.
Your players need to score at least one of three, and you need to be at least 50 per cent in extra shots.

Personally, I HATE the shootout, regardless of what the Leafs have done.

What I'd like to see and would really be exciting, would be a 4-on-4 in overtime with NO GOALIES.

Empty net is always exciting, imagine two empty nets. Sounds a little crazy maybe, but no worse than these stupid shoot-outs.

God no

 

[gunnar36]

I don't think goalies that rely on positioning do well in the shoot-out.  A shoot-out goalie has to be athletic to handle dekes.  Reimer is like a sheet of plywood that puts himself in the best position.  Gustavsson, if anything, was big and able to handle unpredictable chaos.  He's been in one shoot-out, making all three saves.
You need playmakers/deke'r in the shoot-out.  The Leafs don't have that.

You are bang on with the assessment of Reimer.  He is not naturally quick or athletic.  The shootout seems to separate the good goalies from the great ones.  Although he has been good enough to win few of them, he is not the type of goalie who you can count on to steal a shootout win.

 

[gunnar36]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

Tyler Bozak - 7/13
Phil Kessel - 5/24

Why exactly do you want Kessel shooting over Bozak?

Here are the stats of guys currently on the Leafs roster with shootout attempts as a Leaf.

Connolly 2/2
Lupul 2/6
Kadri 3/12
Kulemin 6/18
Grabovski 3/14
Frattin 1/3
Phaneuf 0/1
Colborne 0/1
Franson 0/1
Van Riemsdyk 0/2
MacArthur 0/3

Should we call up Connolly?

 

[cw]

The shooter picks have been stupid.
Start with the guy who is your best chance to score.  Not second, not third.  Kessel...first.
Then, you can choose from Kulemin, Grabovski, Kadri and Lupul.
If it goes past there, tell Phaneuf to wire it as hard as he frickin can.
If we lose after that, so be it.
I don't want to see Bozak or anybody else before those guys.  I don't care what awesome moves they may have demonstrated in practice.

Tyler Bozak - 7/13
Phil Kessel - 5/24

Why exactly do you want Kessel shooting over Bozak?

Here are the stats of guys currently on the Leafs roster with shootout attempts as a Leaf.

Connolly 2/2
Lupul 2/6
Kadri 3/12
Kulemin 6/18
Grabovski 3/14
Frattin 1/3
Phaneuf 0/1
Colborne 0/1
Franson 0/1
Van Riemsdyk 0/2
MacArthur 0/3

Should we call up Connolly?

4/23 (17%) in Buffalo. 33% is decent.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

I think you go with your best scorers regardless and eventually the cream rises to the top.
Your goalie needs to stop on average at least two of three, which Reimer did tonight.
Your players need to score at least one of three, and you need to be at least 50 per cent in extra shots.

Personally, I HATE the shootout, regardless of what the Leafs have done.

What I'd like to see and would really be exciting, would be a 4-on-4 in overtime with NO GOALIES.

Empty net is always exciting, imagine two empty nets. Sounds a little crazy maybe, but no worse than these stupid shoot-outs.

God no

Wow, that's just wacky.  Pretty much the immediate and entire extinction of the OT highlight reel winner.

Here's my own wacky suggestion, only because I hate shootouts:  Teams can elect to burn one of their shootout chances by using a 2-on-0 instead.  So, zero chance at 2 goals for 2 shooters in exchange for a far higher likelihood of 1 goal for 2 shooters.

 

[Crucialness Key]

Personally, I HATE the shootout, regardless of what the Leafs have done.

What I'd like to see and would really be exciting, would be a 4-on-4 in overtime with NO GOALIES.

Empty net is always exciting, imagine two empty nets. Sounds a little crazy maybe, but no worse than these stupid shoot-outs.

How about a second overtime with ONLY the goalies?  They start in their nets, put the puck at centre ice, first goal wins 

 

[PG]

I refuse to accept the shootout.

Prime example why is the fact that we were happy about the Leafs losing a game and actually improving their playoff positioning. It's asinine. Bring back the tie.

 

[Omallley]

I refuse to accept the shootout.

Prime example why is the fact that we were happy about the Leafs losing a game and actually improving their playoff positioning. It's asinine. Bring back the tie.

I'm on board with this. I really hate the shootout. Empty wins. Empty losses.