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NHL 100 Greatest Players List

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Ignoring that they left out the much better debate of ranking players, the NHL has released their list of the official top 100 players. 

Mats Sundin, Borje Salming, Darryl Sittler, Johnny Bower, Syl Apps, King Clancy, Charlie Conacher, Tim Horton, Red Kelly, Dave Keon, Ted Kennedy, Frank Mahovlich, Joe Niewendyk*, Ron Francis*, Mike Gartner*, Brian Leetch*, Eric Lindros*, (Brendan Shanahan)*

Notable exclusions:

Mark Recchi - 12th in all time scoring
Joe Thornton - 992 assists
Doug Gilmour - 18th in all time scoring
Dale Hawerchuk - 19th in all time scoring, 13th in PPG

Of the current NHL players: Jagr, Ovechkin, Crosby, Toews, Kane and Keith

https://www.nhl.com/news/100-greatest-nhl-players-of-all-time/c-286030052
 
PPG:

Patrick Kane: 1.00
Evgeni Malkin: 1.18

GPG:

Patrick Kane: .38
Evgeni Malkin .46

Playoff PPG:

Patrick Kane: .98
Evgeni Malkin: 1.04


Individual Awards:

Patrick Kane: Calder, Conn Smythe, Hart, Art Ross, Pearson

Evgeni Malkin: Calder, Conn Smythe, Hart, Art Ross(x2), Pearson

End of Year All-Star Teams:

Patrick Kane: 2 time NHL first team All-Star

Evgeni Malkin 3 time NHL first team All-Star


I get that this is just a great big marketing event so they want to please their big fan base in Chicago but anyone who thinks Kane is a better player than Malkin is a straight-up crazy person.
 
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/who-were-biggest-snubs-of-100-greatest-nhl-players-list-043233007.html

of course, there will always be debate on these types of lists, but no Malkin and Thornton is quite surprising.
 
None of those Blackhawks deserve to be there, like at all. Thornton > Toews, Malkin > Kane, Chara > Keith. But hey, at least NBC will have something to talk about in Chicago's next 10 Winter Classics.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
None of those Blackhawks deserve to be there, like at all. Thornton > Toews, Malkin > Kane, Chara > Keith. But hey, at least NBC will have something to talk about in Chicago's next 10 Winter Classics.
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Agreed.  Personally, I'd put Karlsson ahead of Keith, too.  If Kane hadn't had his monster year last year, not only would he not be on that list, he wouldn't even be a career PPG player, which he barely even is as it stands.  And the love that Toews continues to get just baffles me.
 
Whoops.  Didn't mean to leave Malkin off my list, my edit didn't save.  Not only can you make the case for Malkin over Kane but the persistent overvaluing of Toews drives me nuts. 
 
It's official, Jonathan Toews is the most overrated player in NHL history. 

Excluding Malkin is a joke.  One of the post-lockout's top 3-5 players (and at various times #1), and he is excluded for the likes of Toews and Kane.  Thornton and Iginla are glaring omissions as well.

Keith is borderline for me, but no reason why Karlsson shouldn't have shown up on the list as well.
 
I don't mind Keith being there but as stated not when a guy like Chara isn't.  Chara has slowed down a lot in the last few years but he was legitimately impossible to play against for 2/3 of his career.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Lol.  Damn, man, hasn't the poor guy suffered enough...?
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"That guy was one of the greats of all time! Those shots of his were deceptive! Would have fooled anyone!"
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
CarltonTheBear said:
None of those Blackhawks deserve to be there, like at all. Thornton > Toews, Malkin > Kane, Chara > Keith. But hey, at least NBC will have something to talk about in Chicago's next 10 Winter Classics.
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Agreed.  Personally, I'd put Karlsson ahead of Keith, too.  If Kane hadn't had his monster year last year, not only would he not be on that list, he wouldn't even be a career PPG player, which he barely even is as it stands.  And the love that Toews continues to get just baffles me.
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Here's the thing though, I think going into a list like this we should have known that one of the things the committee would lose their minds for is cups won. So no Karlsson or Thornton doesn't make sense, sure, but I get the fetishizing of cup winners.

(Because as questionable as Kane, Toews and Keith are, compare them to some of the 70's Habs making the list. Bob Gainey scored 502 points in 1100 games. I think Toews has that beat. Serge Savard made one NHL second all-star team. Keith at least is a multiple Norris winner.)

But no Malkin? That doesn't even fit with that criteria.
 
Boston Leaf said:
Bob Gainey though could be the best defensive forward ever
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Even if that's true, and I don't know how you'd gauge that vs. Peca or Datsyuk or someone, let's look at their era-adjusted scoring and how that represents itself as an 82 game season:

Bob Gainey - 14 goals, 15 assists, 29 points

Jonathan Toews - 38 goals, 47 assists, 85 points

So is being the best defensive forward ever worth 56 points a year? Especially when compared to someone who is also an outstanding defensive forward? I don't know, I'll take the PPG Selke winner personally.
 
It's maybe not worth making it's own thread about, but here's a great reflection from Mike Bossy about his career, in The Players Tribune:  Letter to My Younger Self


Dear 14-year-old Mike,

I write to you today as a 60-year-old man, and I have some news from the future that you probably aren?t going to believe.

There are 30 teams in the NHL in the year 2017, and next season, there?s going to be one in Las Vegas.

Guys don?t smoke cigarettes and drink black coffee at intermission anymore. They drink smoothies and ?stretch.?

The going rate for a 50-goal scorer is about $9 million a year.

And fighting is considered a dying art.

I know the last one probably sounds pretty good to you right now. You?re about to experience more than your fair share of violence. In fact, the reason I?m writing to you now is because you?re about to go through one of the toughest times you?ll ever have to face.

I hope you have enjoyed your beautiful nose for the past 14 years, because pretty soon it?s not going to be so straight anymore.

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