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Points System

Swede

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Back in the day...
There was times you would actually hope for a tie.
Times when your team played poorly but your goalie stood on his head,
a tie was great.
Sometimes during a tight playoff race as a Leaf fan watching a Boston vs
Montreal game I remember hoping for a tie because neither team would get
2 points and advance too much in the standings.
And did I mention I still hate the shoot-out
For the above reasons I propose this radical points scoring system:

4 points for a regulation win
3 points for a O.T win and 1 point for a O.T loss
2 points each for a tie
My new system would have two 5 min O.T periods
In the first 5 min O.T the home team would play short handed for the full
5 min.
In the second 5 min O.T the home team would then have the man advantage for the 5 min.
The object would be to score as many as you could in your 5 min power play.
If after these 2 O.T periods the game is still a tie. Then so be it.
Each team is awarded 2 points.
 
It is too radical.
My solution to aviod 3pts games crap is to award 3pts. for regulation win, for OT/SO win 2 pts., for OT/SO loss 1 pt and for regulation loss 0 pts. Simple as that.
 
drummond said:
It is too radical.
My solution to aviod 3pts games crap is to award 3pts. for regulation win, for OT/SO win 2 pts., for OT/SO loss 1 pt and for regulation loss 0 pts. Simple as that.

I agree.  Too radical for my tastes.  I'm actually getting kinda sick of all these changes to the game.  Some were necessary such as removing the red line, but it's just too much now. 

I would go with the 3pt game to make it fair.  I just don't understand why they don't move to this since it's like adding more points and rewarding teams for going into OT.  It definitely makes it harder to catch up if you're behind the pack. 
 
3PT regulation win has no room for a good old tie.
I hate the shootout.
And as far as the red -line they are looking at putting that back in.
 
drummond said:
It is too radical.
My solution to aviod 3pts games crap is to award 3pts. for regulation win, for OT/SO win 2 pts., for OT/SO loss 1 pt and for regulation loss 0 pts. Simple as that.

Why not make it even simpler like in soccer, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a TIE.  No more OT/SO games at all in the regular season.  Yes, I brought back tie games, but with 3 points on the line for a win, teams are more apt to go for it.
 
Zee said:
Why not make it even simpler like in soccer, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a TIE.  No more OT/SO games at all in the regular season.  Yes, I brought back tie games, but with 3 points on the line for a win, teams are more apt to go for it.

The SO is here for good... Too many people like it. I recall Bettman saying as much earlier this season.
 
drummond said:
It is too radical.
My solution to aviod 3pts games crap is to award 3pts. for regulation win, for OT/SO win 2 pts., for OT/SO loss 1 pt and for regulation loss 0 pts. Simple as that.

I've come fully on board with this idea.  It makes the most sense, and it forces all games to be 3-point games.

I'm not entirely sold though that the NHL is ready to implement this since I'm sure they like having a bunch of the teams jumbled up together this late in the season fighting for spots.
 
Sarge said:
Zee said:
Why not make it even simpler like in soccer, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a TIE.  No more OT/SO games at all in the regular season.  Yes, I brought back tie games, but with 3 points on the line for a win, teams are more apt to go for it.

The SO is here for good... Too many people like it. I recall Bettman saying as much earlier this season.

I really hope not.  I hate rewarding teams for losing with a point.  If you're tied than fine you get 1 point, but a loss is 0, and a win is 3.  Makes it fair in that teams are rewarded for wins, and get nothing for a loss.  3 points vs. 1 for a tie would encourage teams to try and win.
 
Is there a way to make a victory via SO worth half a point? At first I thought it might be too complicated but in baseball folks are okay with half a game... This way you minimize the value of a SO win but still manage to keep it in the game.   
 
Sarge said:
Is there a way to make a victory via SO worth half a point? At first I thought it might be too complicated but in baseball folks are okay with half a game... This way you minimize the value of a SO win but still manage to keep it in the game. 

Yes it's the 3pt system:

3pts for a regulation win
2pts for a OT win
1pt for SO win
0pts for loss

I would even do this:

3pts for a regulation win
2pts for an OT win
1pt for an OT loss
1pt for an SO win
0pts for a loss otherwise

The reason why I give 1 point for an OT loss is because it is earned while actually playing the game with skaters on the ice as oppose to a shootout which is really like a skills competition.
 
jonlleafs said:
Sarge said:
Is there a way to make a victory via SO worth half a point? At first I thought it might be too complicated but in baseball folks are okay with half a game... This way you minimize the value of a SO win but still manage to keep it in the game. 

Yes it's the 3pt system:

3pts for a regulation win
2pts for a OT win
1pt for SO win
0pts for loss

I would even do this:

3pts for a regulation win
2pts for an OT win
1pt for an OT loss
1pt for an SO win
0pts for a loss otherwise

I rather see 2pts for regulation or OT win. OT being 4 minutes 4on4 then 3 minutes 3on3. Then 1pt for shootout win. 0 pts for loss.
 
Sarge said:
Is there a way to make a victory via SO worth half a point? At first I thought it might be too complicated but in baseball folks are okay with half a game... This way you minimize the value of a SO win but still manage to keep it in the game.   

I'd prefer this over the 3-point system. I dunno, just seeing a team with 150 points just seems a little odd to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the NHL someday resorts to this. I mean, they've already diminished the value of a shootout win by changing the tie-break rules.
 
Crazy idea: how about instead of having 3-point games we have 1-point games.

I would propose if neither team can win in regulation, instead of awarding a point to each we don't award that point and then move on as we do now to decide who gets the point in the OT/SO.  If you want a crazier OT have the team that wins in OT still get 2 pts, but still nothing for the loser.  Actually I think I like that because OT win should be worth more than a lame shootout win. So we have:

Reg win: 2pts
OT win: 2pts
SO win: 1 pts
Loss: 0 pts

I'm sure someone can find problems but I think this would make for some crazy 3rd period and OT action.  No more coasting to get the OT point, and no more coasting in OT if you think you have a good shot in the shootout.  Also: no points for losers!  Feel free to destroy this...
 
pnjunction said:
Crazy idea: how about instead of having 3-point games we have 1-point games.

I would propose if neither team can win in regulation, instead of awarding a point to each we don't award that point and then move on as we do now to decide who gets the point in the OT/SO.  If you want a crazier OT have the team that wins in OT still get 2 pts, but still nothing for the loser.  Actually I think I like that because OT win should be worth more than a lame shootout win. So we have:

Reg win: 2pts
OT win: 2pts
SO win: 1 pts
Loss: 0 pts

I'm sure someone can find problems but I think this would make for some crazy 3rd period and OT action.  No more coasting to get the OT point, and no more coasting in OT if you think you have a good shot in the shootout.  Also: no points for losers!  Feel free to destroy this...

Ya I kinda like the concept.  If you lose you get nothing.
 
Thinking about it a bit more I think an aspect of my hair-brained idea I like even more than no points for losers is the dis-incentive to go to the shootout since a point is taken off the table.
 
jonlleafs said:
Ya I kinda like the concept.  If you lose you get nothing.

Reading back it looks exactly like what you posted except without the 3pt regulation win.

One advantage of the 3pt reg win though is that it makes that 1pt in the shootout worth even less.

Oops I think Chazz-Micheal Liles described my exact idea, just with details about OT that are another thing to consider.

Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
I rather see 2pts for regulation or OT win. OT being 4 minutes 4on4 then 3 minutes 3on3. Then 1pt for shootout win. 0 pts for loss.
 
pnjunction said:
jonlleafs said:
Ya I kinda like the concept.  If you lose you get nothing.

Reading back it looks exactly like what you posted except without the 3pt regulation win.

One advantage of the 3pt reg win though is that it makes that 1pt in the shootout worth even less.

Oops I think Chazz-Micheal Liles described my exact idea, just with details about OT that are another thing to consider.

Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
I rather see 2pts for regulation or OT win. OT being 4 minutes 4on4 then 3 minutes 3on3. Then 1pt for shootout win. 0 pts for loss.

Well, I like the idea of not having 3pts in a game.  That bugs me because part of me is a traditionalist.  But it also lessons the SO which I like.  I'm still on the fence about going to OT and not getting a point.  Cuz really, it's like having just a 4th period.
 
jonlleafs said:
Well, I like the idea of not having 3pts in a game.  That bugs me because part of me is a traditionalist.  But it also lessons the SO which I like.  I'm still on the fence about going to OT and not getting a point.  Cuz really, it's like having just a 4th period.

Well it is a 4th period that you don't have to play if you have a lead after 60 minutes.
 
pnjunction said:
Crazy idea: how about instead of having 3-point games we have 1-point games.

I would propose if neither team can win in regulation, instead of awarding a point to each we don't award that point and then move on as we do now to decide who gets the point in the OT/SO.  If you want a crazier OT have the team that wins in OT still get 2 pts, but still nothing for the loser.  Actually I think I like that because OT win should be worth more than a lame shootout win. So we have:

Reg win: 2pts
OT win: 2pts
SO win: 1 pts
Loss: 0 pts

I'm sure someone can find problems but I think this would make for some crazy 3rd period and OT action.  No more coasting to get the OT point, and no more coasting in OT if you think you have a good shot in the shootout.  Also: no points for losers!  Feel free to destroy this...
I love it!  So a team wants to play for a tie.... well suffer the consequences!  I think it will make for some pretty wicked OT sessions if teams let it get that far.  This makes so much sense that the NHL would NEVER adopt it.
 

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