Sharks acquire Martin Jones from Bruins
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Good return, will seem less impressive though when Boston uses that pick to select Zachary Senyshyn again next year.
Frank E said:
For sure, they better hope that their scouts know what they're doing though. Those 1st round picks that they made are very, very iffy considering the names they passed on.
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
That would be great, if they drafted with some sort of sense. Not that they got bad players with their picks, but there were better players left on the board.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Boston doesn't actually have the best track record drafting in the 1st round, really. Not outside the top 5 or so.
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Yeah, I'm not commenting on who they picked, just that they seem to be undergoing a re-stocking of the prospect pool right now. Krejci and Bergeron are pushing 30, and I guess some change in direction was to be expected given that they fired Chiarelli and all.
They could flip Eriksson and Kelly at the deadline this year and have a nice little bunch of draft picks for 2016 too.
They could flip Eriksson and Kelly at the deadline this year and have a nice little bunch of draft picks for 2016 too.
I think Boston's draft record rivals just about any other team's, Merkley who was rated 15 or there abouts went 30 so all the raters including the NHL teams had different concepts of who could be better, now it's a wait and see.
Pastrnak was one of only 4 players that were drafted in 2014 that played a majority of games with the team that drafted them. I look back at the Bruin drafting history and see a lot of home runs.
Pastrnak was one of only 4 players that were drafted in 2014 that played a majority of games with the team that drafted them. I look back at the Bruin drafting history and see a lot of home runs.
Funny thing about this move is that apparently LA really didn't want to trade Jones somewhere in the West. Now he winds up on one of their divisional rivals.
With that said, given how Lombardi apparently deals with his problems these days I'd expect Martin Jones to receive a 3-year ban from the NHL any time now.
With that said, given how Lombardi apparently deals with his problems these days I'd expect Martin Jones to receive a 3-year ban from the NHL any time now.
L K
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I guess I have a hard time rationalizing why Jones gets a 1st + prospect when a guy like Cam Talbot nets a 2nd and 3rd round pick and Eddie Lack gets traded for a 3rd and 6th round pick.
Jones in had a .908 SV% in his games this year with the Kings. LA struggled this year, but their struggles were with offense, not defense. I know he's a good prospect, it just seems odd that San Jose would give up a 1st round pick...especially when they weren't a good team this year. I'm not just not seeing where they make improvements to their team to be a definite playoff team next year. Dallas has Nieme/Lehtonen in net now and ideally don't lose Seguin to a cheap shot, Edmonton's goaltending is going to be better and McDavid being added to their forward group is going to be a solid boost and LA added Lucic at a cap discount AND apparently get to fire players when their cap is in trouble. None of the teams who made the playoffs are really teams that are on the cusp of falling apart either.
I can see this trade really backfiring when San Jose finishes in 10th and ends up as a top 3 pick during the lottery.
Jones in had a .908 SV% in his games this year with the Kings. LA struggled this year, but their struggles were with offense, not defense. I know he's a good prospect, it just seems odd that San Jose would give up a 1st round pick...especially when they weren't a good team this year. I'm not just not seeing where they make improvements to their team to be a definite playoff team next year. Dallas has Nieme/Lehtonen in net now and ideally don't lose Seguin to a cheap shot, Edmonton's goaltending is going to be better and McDavid being added to their forward group is going to be a solid boost and LA added Lucic at a cap discount AND apparently get to fire players when their cap is in trouble. None of the teams who made the playoffs are really teams that are on the cusp of falling apart either.
I can see this trade really backfiring when San Jose finishes in 10th and ends up as a top 3 pick during the lottery.
L K said:
It's early but yeah I wouldn't bet on them making the playoffs right now. This is the first 2016 1st round draft pick traded, yeah? I was wondering if we'd start to see more "lottery protected" language added to these trades, but I haven't heard it here. This trade could get ugly for San Jose.
Also, probably a little late to call Jones a good prospect. He's 25 years old and entering his 6th professional season.
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hobarth said:
Seriously? Outside of the 1st round over the last 8 drafts the Bruins prospects have put up a combined:
Skaters - 205GP 21G 37A 58P
Goalies - 42GP
That's 40 draft picks (36 skaters and 4 goaltenders) over 8 drafts. That production works out to 82GP 8G 15A 23P. How is that indicative of anything other than poor drafting?
Pastrnak is a good prospect but far too much is being made of a half season of production (as well as a very good AHL campaign). I need to see that production over more than a 46 game schedule before we annoint Pastrnak as a great player. He certainly showed good potential this year. They had it easy with Seguin with the Leafs pick and I will certainly give them credit for drafting Hamilton...but then they went and threw him away....along with getting a poor return for Seguin too.
If anything Boston fell apart because their drafting has been so poor and they haven't been able to fill in the gaps on their roster in the same way that a team like Chicago has been able to keep going.
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hobarth said:
Really? Here's Boston's 1st round picks since taking Joe Thornton 1st overall in 1997:
1999 - Nick Boynton, 21st
2000 - Lars Jonsson, 7th
2000 - Martin Samuelsson, 27th
2001 - Shaone Morrisonn, 19th
2002 - Hannu Toivonen, 29th
2003 - Mark Stuart, 21st
2005 - Matt Lashoff, 22nd
2006 - Phil Kessel, 5th
2007 - Zach Hamill, 8th
2008 - Joe Colborne, 16th
2009 - Jordan Caron, 25th
2010 - Tyler Seguin, 2nd
2011 - Dougie Hamilton, 9th
2012 - Malcolm Subban, 24th
2014 - David Pastrnak, 25th
I don't see many home runs at all. I see them doing well with top 5 picks, where it's hard to screw up too much, less good in the 5-10 range (1 quality NHLer in 3 shots there), a few okay NHLers like Morrisonn and Stuart when drafting any later than that, and a few unknowns over the past couple drafts that might turn out.
