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Would a NHL-backed Women's League work?

Kin

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So this got kicked up a little bit in some of the press Hayley Wickenheiser did recently that, given the fairly wonky state of professional women's hockey right now, there was some push for the NHL to step in and offer sort of a WNBA like system where the league itself created and financially supported a women's league.

It got me thinking of whether or not it could conceivably work and though I was pretty doubtful initially I think I've sort of come up with a scenario where it might make a little sense, provided you avoid some of the mistakes that have been made in these efforts before.

Because, at a fundamental level, we all tend to like the women's game at the Olympics, right? Sure, most of the games are snoozers because the talent levels are so wildly disparate between Canada-US and every other nation and games between the other nations are pretty lacking but this league wouldn't have that. Primarily only having Canadian and American players(with obviously room for the best players from elsewhere if they're up to par) would go a long way to solve the issue of competitiveness.

So, how could it be a success? Here are some ideas:

1. Start small. 6-8 teams at the beginning. Big markets. Hockey markets. All connected to NHL franchises. Toronto, Montreal, Boston, New York, Ottawa, Calgary, Minnesota...maybe someone else.

2. Keep it professional. Establish a cap on total salaries but a minimum salary that ensures that players didn't have to work outside jobs. So long as they could focus on being professional players, have access to professional coaching and training, the quality of the game would improve. Most sports leagues began from a place of paying players a real wage, follow suit.

3. Make the TV networks effectively fund the league. Want the NHL contract? Then you get the Women's League contract as well. If there are 8 teams with a 2.5 million cap, that's 20 million a year. Get that in TV rights tacked onto the NHL deal in exchange for hundreds of hours of content. Then the league only has to pay for things like travel and staff out of pocket or through other revenues generated by ticket sales.

4. Use the power of established brands. Don't come up with a bunch of terrible, modern sports team names. The Toronto team? The Maple Leafs. Boston? Bruins. Same jerseys, same logos, no "Lady Red Wings" or whatever. The Toronto Terror vs. The Montreal Monsters is a tough sell. Leafs-Habs? Less so.

I'm not sure if it would be viable to run this in the summer, so as to be hockey for when there is no hockey and likewise I'm not sure if it'd be viable to do this out of NHL arenas as opposed to Ricoh and the like but I'm guessing that the logistics could be worked out. Would it be successful? I'm not sure. But I do think that if there was a Leafs-Habs or Leafs-Sens game tonight that featured players from the Olympics that at least some of us would watch it vs. another terrible Jays game or...whatever else is on in the summer. And I think you could do it with the costs being a drop in the bucket for the modern, revenue generating NHL. And for all the talk about promoting the game and making hockey accessible to everyone, this seems like a real opportunity to access an underserved market.

Anyways, just idle thoughts when there's no hockey around.
 
Just without giving it much thought, I was thinking that they might have trouble getting 8 teams worth of talent, unless you think that they'd be attracting overseas players?

Is it all free-agents, or would there be a draft?

I find it very interesting that you're proposing a salary cap!!!
 
Frank E said:
Just without giving it much thought, I was thinking that they might have trouble getting 8 teams worth of talent, unless you think that they'd be attracting overseas players?

Well, I think there'd be enough players just from the Canadian and US college ranks to fill teams out. Would they be as good as the Olympic teams? No, but the trade-off is parity that doesn't exist outside of Canada-US games.

And, yeah, the best of the overseas players would certainly be included.

Frank E said:
Is it all free-agents, or would there be a draft?

I'd assume you'd start with some sort of dispersal draft and then have amateur drafts.

Frank E said:
I find it very interesting that you're proposing a salary cap!!!

Sure, yeah but I think this is the one situation where it makes sense. The trade-off is that, like I said, there's a high enough minimum salary that, at least initially, the league's revenues may not justify.

If this proposed league became a really profitable enterprise I think you'd have to re-examine that but at the start I think it's more important that everyone is making a living.
 
Nik the Trik said:
1. Start small. 6-8 teams at the beginning. Big markets. Hockey markets. All connected to NHL franchises. Toronto, Montreal, Boston, New York, Ottawa, Calgary, Minnesota...maybe someone else.

Great thoughts.. it makes perfect sense to connect the proposed teams to the existing franchises. To start, why not run the games once weekly in the afternoon of the Canadian saturday night hockey markets, and spend some of the intermissions of the Men's game breaking down the highlights of the women's game earlier in the day. Build it up from there.
 
I like the idea, not sure what kind of following it would have but I would definitely check out the league if it started out. If the competition was too lopsided and there were consent blowouts it might lose it's appeal. Wonder how balanced the teams would be.
 
As much as I would like to take my daughters to a woman?s game I have a lot of doubts that it would succeed. You are asking businesses to front money in an almost welfare system. Alternatively the nhl and players take the hit.  I wonder how popular woman?s hockey really would be in the U..S.  Woman?s Football had to resort to sex appeal to try and sell it.  Ultimately you are selling a product of X quality regardless of the sex. I think the novelty wears off and you are left with below junior C hockey.  Some U.S. teams have trouble filling NHL rinks.  I think it would be left in perpetual reliance on outside funding and not sustainable on its own.
 
Average Joes said:
As much as I would like to take my daughters to a woman?s game I have a lot of doubts that it would succeed. You are asking businesses to front money in an almost welfare system.

Well, what you're asking is for teams and your broadcast partners to invest in growing the game and a potentially financially profitable venture.
 
I just don?t see a self sustaining women?s hockey league where the players well paid women?s. At least not in the near future. It is an interesting approach.
 
Zee said:
I like the idea, not sure what kind of following it would have but I would definitely check out the league if it started out. If the competition was too lopsided and there were consent blowouts it might lose it's appeal. Wonder how balanced the teams would be.

The CW and the NW are fairly evenly played now. You'd essentially be combining those two leagues and dropping the number of teams, so to me, competition and calibre would stay high.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Average Joes said:
As much as I would like to take my daughters to a woman?s game I have a lot of doubts that it would succeed. You are asking businesses to front money in an almost welfare system.

Well, what you're asking is for teams and your broadcast partners to invest in growing the game and a potentially financially profitable venture.

Is it overly viable to be demanding things in the NHLs current state though?  It isn?t like they have networks banging down the door desperately to add prime time NHL hockey.
 
L K said:
Is it overly viable to be demanding things in the NHLs current state though?  It isn?t like they have networks banging down the door desperately to add prime time NHL hockey.

I don't know about the US but I think the Canadian cable package is still pretty valuable and in demand.

I also think the CBC could be an interesting avenue. They don't have HNIC anymore and they should have a bit of a mandate to grow the sport in addition to just raw profit.
 
Bullfrog said:
Does it make any sense to tie it to AHL franchises instead?

Maybe. I guess it depends on what you mean. I think it makes sense for these teams to be playing in smaller arenas but I still think you'd want the financial backing and brand recognition of the NHL.

 
Here is a partial excerpt of the Wickenheiser interview regarding a Women's professional league:

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