rjd
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Not good when you are tying records from the 80's
Wild @ Leafs - Nov. 12th, 7:00pm - SN
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ZBBM
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I'll say this, Matthews is playing hard.
YYZ
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A couple mistakes and a few BS penalties and here we are.
This was the risk of whatever this is instead of rebuilding. The argument was Leafs can't hand their rivals a top ten pick.
At this rate, that is exactly what's going to happen and the rebuild is delayed another season.
This was the risk of whatever this is instead of rebuilding. The argument was Leafs can't hand their rivals a top ten pick.
At this rate, that is exactly what's going to happen and the rebuild is delayed another season.
ZBBM
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I'm sorry, and I hate to even say this because I know how hard Rick works, but this new website system sucks. I spend half my time just trying to refresh the page and get by cloudflare.
rjd
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Well I guess cross checks are okay now.
rjd
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I think the Cloudflare "My site is under attack" setting is on
YYZ
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Hunk of junk.
L K
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Yet another game where we take more penalties. Yet another game where multiple calls are ignored.
Yet another game where atrocious defense lets the team down
Yet another game where atrocious defense lets the team down
ZBBM
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Hard to see how they recover from this homestand.
rjd
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The problem is that the decision to trade those picks was made in a season where they thought they would be contenders for a couple of seasons. They underestimated the impact of Marner, and here we are. The picks are gone. They have to make smart decisions from here on out. I don't think the decisions they have made are stupid per se. Bobrovsky was a gamble. It hasn't paid off. The injuries are a piling up. Hillier so far does not inspire me as a coach.
Site is working about as well as the Leafs lately.
Guilt Trip
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Like Nylander...works once in a while lol
They probably need to play at a 109 point pace the rest of the season. Not likely recoverable.
rjd
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I think they have to bench Nylander for a couple of games. If he isn't scoring he actually hurts you.
ZBBM
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Unless they reel off a bunch of wins I think they need to take a hard look by the end of the month and make a fork in the road decision about whether to start the rebuild. If they do, I would move Nylander for defensive help. I think he's peaked.
Nylander leads NHL forwards this season in even strength goals against. If he's not in the mood to backcheck or make an effort, as we have seen with some periodic regularity over the years, they get lit up.
In his defence this season, when he and McKenna are on the same line, you may/probably have the two worst Leafs forwards defensively together. That helped push him to the top of the list. When you have a 100 foot winger, you need to have him playing with a 200 foot center and a 200 foot winger. Someone on the line has to be interested in making the consistent effort to play defence. That is not Nylander and as a string of Leafs coaches have found out, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
herman
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I missed the third
Nylander obviously getting roasted for this, but they switched to a man-to-man system and that's definitely something that can happen on a cross-over drop (a highly effective play for a reason). I think it would be good for the player who sees it coming to bark on-ice orders (something Stolarz does well) to coordinate these things.
I did not expect Willy to show up that high on this (Matthews shifts towards the end?); probably explains why they shifted Cowan off.
Anyway, I think the lines benefited from Cole McWard vs busted Tanev
Nylander obviously getting roasted for this, but they switched to a man-to-man system and that's definitely something that can happen on a cross-over drop (a highly effective play for a reason). I think it would be good for the player who sees it coming to bark on-ice orders (something Stolarz does well) to coordinate these things.
I did not expect Willy to show up that high on this (Matthews shifts towards the end?); probably explains why they shifted Cowan off.
Anyway, I think the lines benefited from Cole McWard vs busted Tanev
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That really was ridiculous. OEL was like, " Okay, you got him; I will go over here... wait, what? WTF, Willy?"
Willy just "nopes" and jumps ship...
L K
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Early in his career he was definitely dropped in the lineup a few times. But over the last few years...nothing. That he got rewarded with more ice time after some of the terrible play last night is incredibly frustrating. I love Nylander as a player. At his best he is just so fun to watch but its been incredibly frustrating watching him be a lazy defensive player and face no consequences for it.
McKenna is a rookie. McKenna has massive warts. Hiller has no problem stapling him to the bench. Cowan really hasn't done much to warrant being on Matthews wing (although our winger depth sucks right now).
The hole probably isn't too deep to climb out of simply because the Leafs will have a lot of 4 point games down the stretch and if they did ever figure things out they have opportunity to ride up the standings...but the extent that the Marchenko injury destroyed the roster is kind of absurd.
I do like this McWard guy. Pretty much guaranteed he comes out of the lineup.
This is a one line team right now and Matthews isn't McDavid.
I think Hiller was the wrong hire as coach.
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