2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread
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maplesyrup
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11th vs 13th highest payroll in the WS... I suppose that's good news for the smaller markets.
maplesyrup
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Saint Nik said:
Yup. Though with that said, I'd much rather the Jays @ 90-100 mil. than 60 or less. :-\
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Floyd said:
Yeah, but you wonder with the Rays. Would they have been better off if they had the payroll room to re-sign Carl Crawford? Obviously a bigger payroll gives you a greater margin for error but I think a decent argument could be made that there are advantages to the low payroll in terms of forcing a team to be creative.
Big comeback win for the Rangers.
Interestingly, the Yahoo sports recap noted that the comeback came against the "vaunted" St. Louis bullpen. This was the same bullpen that was 2nd in the majors with 26 blown saves, so maybe not vaunted for the reasons they think.
It is good to have the series tied going back to Texas. I would quickly lose interest if it was another one-sided affair.
Interestingly, the Yahoo sports recap noted that the comeback came against the "vaunted" St. Louis bullpen. This was the same bullpen that was 2nd in the majors with 26 blown saves, so maybe not vaunted for the reasons they think.
It is good to have the series tied going back to Texas. I would quickly lose interest if it was another one-sided affair.
hockeyfan1
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St.Louis walloped Texas 16-7 in Game 3, taking a 2 to 1 Series lead, led by the heroics of the Cardinals' Albert Pujols, the 'goat' for the team's previous loss at home to the Rangers Thursday night.
Pujols three home runs tied him with two others -- Reggie Jackson and Babe Ruth -- to ever accomplish the feat in a World Series.
For more: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/22/davidi_game3/
Pujols three home runs tied him with two others -- Reggie Jackson and Babe Ruth -- to ever accomplish the feat in a World Series.
For more: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/22/davidi_game3/
maplesyrup
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I'm reading various reports that the Red Sox may be trying to make a trade with the Jays... the man they may want in return? Manager John Farrell.
bustaheims
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Floyd said:
There's also been reports that they don't want to go back down the compensation route after the issues they had with the Epstein to the Cubs thing.
maplesyrup
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Busta Reims said:
3-Way?
To Toronto: Something from the Cubs
To Boston: Farrell
To Chicago: Epstein
Now that would be something!
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Rangers defeated the Cardinals Monday night by a score of 4-2, thus, taking a 3 games to 2 Series lead.
Mike Napoli lead Texas with his 9th RBI (team totals=10), no doubt in the lead for MVP honours, should Rangers win the Series, which could come as early as Wednesday night, in Game 6, in St.Louis.
Unless the Cardinals shore up and LaRussa makes some sensible decisions, all does not bode too well for St. Louis.
Source: Sportsnet
Mike Napoli lead Texas with his 9th RBI (team totals=10), no doubt in the lead for MVP honours, should Rangers win the Series, which could come as early as Wednesday night, in Game 6, in St.Louis.
Unless the Cardinals shore up and LaRussa makes some sensible decisions, all does not bode too well for St. Louis.
Source: Sportsnet
hockeyfan1
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On the Farrell situation....
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/25/grange_farrell/
"Due to the distraction caused by media speculation regarding our employee permission policy, the Toronto Blue Jays have amended their policy and will not grant permission for lateral moves," read a statement signed by Blue Jays president and chief executive officer Paul Beeston as well as Anthopoulos.
How real was the threat of Farrell leaving for Boston? We may never know...
...the announcement Tuesday was essential for the Blue Jays going forward as they continue a long, slow battle to make their fans believe in their organization again.
The possibility of losing right-hand man and assistant general manager Tony LaCava to the Baltimore Orioles was one thing. Not ideal, but it represents a promotion for a long-serving company man.
But if the Jays are going to succeed they can't concede any advantage to Boston or New York casually.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/25/grange_farrell/
"Due to the distraction caused by media speculation regarding our employee permission policy, the Toronto Blue Jays have amended their policy and will not grant permission for lateral moves," read a statement signed by Blue Jays president and chief executive officer Paul Beeston as well as Anthopoulos.
How real was the threat of Farrell leaving for Boston? We may never know...
...the announcement Tuesday was essential for the Blue Jays going forward as they continue a long, slow battle to make their fans believe in their organization again.
The possibility of losing right-hand man and assistant general manager Tony LaCava to the Baltimore Orioles was one thing. Not ideal, but it represents a promotion for a long-serving company man.
But if the Jays are going to succeed they can't concede any advantage to Boston or New York casually.
hockeyfan1
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More...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/24/davidi__on_farrell/
Farrell..."I am focused right now on preparing for what is best for the Blue Jays in 2012."
"I think the way to look at it is as a compliment," said Bautista. "If a team like that is interested in quote unquote taking him away from us, it should be a compliment that you have a good manager. Hopefully he?ll stay on board with us.
Two weeks ago, Anthopoulos said in an interview that losing LaCava would "sting" because "we can?t replace him."
"I?d love to sit here and tell you that we can," he continued, "but it?s just too young a front office, too inexperienced, myself included, to replace what he brings because he?s the total package."
Already faced with losing LaCava, the sense of uncertainty with Farrell threatens to turn one of the Blue Jays? prime assets this off-season, organizational stability, into a liability.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2011/10/24/davidi__on_farrell/
Farrell..."I am focused right now on preparing for what is best for the Blue Jays in 2012."
"I think the way to look at it is as a compliment," said Bautista. "If a team like that is interested in quote unquote taking him away from us, it should be a compliment that you have a good manager. Hopefully he?ll stay on board with us.
Two weeks ago, Anthopoulos said in an interview that losing LaCava would "sting" because "we can?t replace him."
"I?d love to sit here and tell you that we can," he continued, "but it?s just too young a front office, too inexperienced, myself included, to replace what he brings because he?s the total package."
Already faced with losing LaCava, the sense of uncertainty with Farrell threatens to turn one of the Blue Jays? prime assets this off-season, organizational stability, into a liability.
Chev-boyar-sky
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I don't get this Farrell thing.
If the Sox want him, and are willing to pay (whatever that may be, cash/prospects whatever) then it would benefit our team.
I like him. He seems to be a good coach and the players like him but there seem to be a decent number of coaches available.
I'd look into Francona if Farrell was leaving. He'd have extra incentive to do well after his recent dismissal, especially against Boston (although maybe the Sox roster would have extra incentive to do well against him, hmmmm...).
If the Sox want him, and are willing to pay (whatever that may be, cash/prospects whatever) then it would benefit our team.
I like him. He seems to be a good coach and the players like him but there seem to be a decent number of coaches available.
I'd look into Francona if Farrell was leaving. He'd have extra incentive to do well after his recent dismissal, especially against Boston (although maybe the Sox roster would have extra incentive to do well against him, hmmmm...).
Chev-boyar-sky said:
I don't know. As a GM trying to build a winner, I wouldn't want a team like the Red Sox to be able to poach away my manager after just one year of him being there. Why you would let your current manager go to a division rival is beyond me.
I like the fact they took a stance.
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Oh don't worry the Beantown rumour mongers are in overdrive now!
It seems the Herald is trying to keep up with the Globe as they've came out with a story that the Jays "will not rule out" taking a run at Ortiz this offseason! :
It seems the Herald is trying to keep up with the Globe as they've came out with a story that the Jays "will not rule out" taking a run at Ortiz this offseason! :
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Newbury said:
Yeah if there's one thing I learned from Moneyball it's that the coach is among the most important people in determining wins and losses.