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2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread

Crucialness Key said:
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.
 
bustaheims said:
Crucialness Key said:
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.

Dang... I guess I have a soft spot for crazy fast players.
 
Crucialness Key said:
bustaheims said:
Crucialness Key said:
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.

Dang... I guess I have a soft spot for crazy fast players.

I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player
 
Kozun played in 5 games.  He had 1 assist and was a -4.  Yes he had speed but how that stat line suggests anything other than a guy who was working his butt off and wasn't getting the job done is beyond me.

I don't think anyone argues that Winnik is a 2nd line player but put in the role he has produced some offense.  He is certainly not a long-term option on that line but Kozun isn't either.
 
L K said:
Kozun played in 5 games.  He had 1 assist and was a -4.  Yes he had speed but how that stat line suggests anything other than a guy who was working his butt off and wasn't getting the job done is beyond me.

I don't think anyone argues that Winnik is a 2nd line player but put in the role he has produced some offense.  He is certainly not a long-term option on that line but Kozun isn't either.

Everyone that line were not playing well, I think Kadri had a total of two point in his first 7 games this year. So I dont think that is a sign of how Kozun could of played.
 
freer said:
Everyone that line were not playing well, I think Kadri had a total of two point in his first 7 games this year. So I dont think that is a sign of how Kozun could of played.

Perhaps Kadri's low point totals were because he was playing with an AHLer. Kozun really doesn't have any NHL qualities besides speed, and that's not enough.
 
freer said:
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.
 
Highlander said:
In this age of moving to complete specialization Kozun was excellent on the penalty kill. Perhaps he finds a role there.

The Leafs' PK has been just fine without him, and the whole specialization thing is massively overstated. Good teams don't have players in their lineup that can't be effective at even strength or can't be used for ~10 minutes a night. Specialization has a lot more to do with ES roles rather than being sheltered for special team use.
 
bustaheims said:
freer said:
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.

I'd be inclined to give him a few more games, that injury is going to hold him up in the lineup though so it might take a while, although, Booth looks like he's milking it...
 
Tigger said:
bustaheims said:
freer said:
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.

I'd be inclined to give him a few more games, that injury is going to hold him up in the lineup though so it might take a while, although, Booth looks like he's milking it...

I am quite happy with the unit that is rolling right now. Let the injured folk take their time.
 
jonasTSN1050: Carlyle confirms that Lupul won't play this weekend. Likely to be back next Weds.

jonasTSN1050: David Booth expected to play two games with Marlies this weekend before rejoining Leafs.
 
I haven't seen anything on either, but with Polak not putting any weight on his ankle at all my guess is that it's weeks for sure.
 
Ya if its  broken out for months, sprained at least 6 weeks.  Will give one of the young guns a chance it would seem.  Loov or Granberg (supposedly Percy has been not playing all that well with the Marlies)
 
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.
 
bustaheims said:
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.

Tough time to lose him too with a very difficult December coming up.
 

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