2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
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L K
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Bender said:
Honestly not a lot. His bullpen has been awful regardless of who they put in.....but he pulls Buck Shoewalter level moves. Game close...put Dolis in. His bullpen management isn't good.
Granted again the bullpen overall sucks but he sticks with guys too long. He has a short leash for his starters but then lets relievers come in and destroy games over and over again. Dolis shouldn't be on an MLB roster. He had a decent 20 innings last year and now has a 5.6 ER and 1.75 WHIP. He's awful.
The Jays are 4 games back of the wildcard and Oakland/Boston/New York are all tied for it now. The Jays are heading in the wrong direction. This was never really a playoff calibre team. They can't beat teams that are >.500 with any consistency.
bustaheims
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Dolis' numbers are skewed by a handful of bad games. He hasn't been as good as last season, but he also hasn't been as bad as his numbers suggest. Mostly, his poor outings have been in games the team was already faring poorly in. That's not to excuse Montoya - his bullpen/rotation management isn't great - but, Dolis' struggles have been overstated. The bigger problem is the mixed bag of garbage the team has had to rely on (Milone, Chatwood, etc.).
OldTimeHockey
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L K said:
I don't know why there's such a rush on to make them a playoff team.
bustaheims
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Joe S. said:
The last week or so was definitely a low point, and the team clearly agrees with you and L K. He's been burned some by the defence behind him (.318 BABIP compared to an MLB average of .297 and his FIP is more than a full run better than his ERA) and his control issues haven't helped - especially recently - but some of his advanced numbers grade out pretty well, especially in terms of keeping the ball in the park. Overall, he grades out as a pretty average reliever, which isn't anything to cry about losing, but far from awful. Mostly, he's not reliable in high leverage situations and shouldn't have been used in so many, but that's on Montoya. He shouldn't be anywhere near the mound in the 9th inning of a close game, and only used sparingly in the 8th (or against Boston, who have really beat up on him) - but, when the team has rolled him out a little earlier, he's mostly been good.
He's no big loss, but he's hardly been the team's worst reliever, either. The bullpen is what has kept this team from being a playoff team, really. The lineup is one of the best in baseball, the starting pitching has been mostly excellent. With a better bullpen, the Jays almost certainly have a record closer to their pythagorean record. Can't really blame one pitcher or even the manager for that. That's more on Atkins and Shapiro - though, to their credit, they did make a number of moves to address the issue. Just might have been too little, too late.
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
He?s an excellent filmmaker.
dappleganger
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L K said:
I stopped watching before this happened. Why put Brad Hand in at that point? Bonkers.
Highlander
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I know he had a Hand in that loss.
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
For the rest of this season, yeah. I suspect he'll be brought up by next weekend.
Highlander
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The Heat is On.