GhostofPotvin29
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bustaheims said:
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Draft Pick Watch - WE PICKED NYLANDER!!1!!
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bustaheims
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Andy007 said:
Yeah. They've only had 2 players drafted after the 2nd round that made significant contributions to the team in the last few seasons - Reimer and Gunnarsson. Only 3 from outside the 1st round (Kulemin), and there's a real possibility that 2 of those guys will be gone before next season.
Redleaf
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Andy007 said:
Pretty much. Thanks for sharing BTW.
I'll admit its surprising to see how many 1st and 2nd rounders were actually kept over the years. It's a far cry from all the fans that complained the Leafs were always sacrificing the future for the present in past administrations.
bustaheims
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RedLeaf said:
In the past 11 drafts, the Leafs have made pick in both the 1st and 2nd rounds 4 times and have drafted a total of 15 players in the first 2 round in that span. That's not great.
They've also traded away 5 of those 15 players.
If the rumour that Edmonton might be willing to move down at the 11th hour if Ekblad isn't available ( and I'm not convinced there's much merit to that as they're also rumoured to be interested in Draisaitl ) and say Bennett is gone to Buffalo, should the Leafs find a way to land the 3 spot, would you take Leon or Reinhart? For me it's the deutschland dangler.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Tigger said:
Give me a 'b'...
mr grieves
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Jonas Siegel interviews Dave Morrison.
link: http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=455493
my favorite"
link: http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=455493
my favorite"
TSN's draft rankings (based on input from multiple scouts in the NHL):
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=95289
They have Haydn Fleury ranked 8th, with Nylander and Ehlers right behind him.
Craig "Everybody look at me I'm different I'm different!" Button's rankings are included as well. Craig has Nick Ritchie ranked 16th and Jake Virtanen 43rd.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=95289
They have Haydn Fleury ranked 8th, with Nylander and Ehlers right behind him.
Craig "Everybody look at me I'm different I'm different!" Button's rankings are included as well. Craig has Nick Ritchie ranked 16th and Jake Virtanen 43rd.
Redleaf
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CarltonTheBear said:
You know, the more I look at Fleury the more I see him as a good fit for the Leafs moving forward. They have the young, run and gun D men to partner him with in Rielly and Gardiner. His stay-at-home game would be a real nice balance with those guys as they mature together.
Defensemen tend to take longer to mature, and selecting D-men first with their higher picks (at least until you have a solid core) as opposed to flashy forwards (like EDM) might be a better plan in the long run.
If they do select Haydn, I don't see them regretting it.
BlueWhiteBlood
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I wish Ritchie was more of a sure thing, because if he's available at our pick, it would be hard not to grab him. I would end up not drafting him, because I didn't like the consistency issues, but his size and skill are enticing.
bustaheims
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b1rky: LRTs - 2006 was an amazingly successful draft for Toronto. Nearly 1300 GP from those selections. Tlusty, Kulemin, Reimer, Komarov, etc.
b1rky: HOWEVER...since 2007 the Leafs are 19th in the NHL in terms of GP from their draft selections.
b1rky: In terms of total points, the Leafs are 22nd and 24th in total goals.
b1rky: In fact, the combined GP of all Leaf selections from 2007-2013 is less than the GP from those players picked in 2006.
b1rky: HOWEVER...since 2007 the Leafs are 19th in the NHL in terms of GP from their draft selections.
b1rky: In terms of total points, the Leafs are 22nd and 24th in total goals.
b1rky: In fact, the combined GP of all Leaf selections from 2007-2013 is less than the GP from those players picked in 2006.
L K
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bustaheims said:
The Leafs have three meaningful players on their roster from the last 7 NHL drafts: Rielly (2012), Kadri (2009), Gunnarsson (2007)...maybe you can argue a 4th with Schenn (2008) for JVR. That's incompetence.
And sure, there are some guys who have had decent years and maybe are proving to be more valuable than their original selection: Andreas Johnson (7th round), Connor Brown (6th round), Carter Verhaeghe (3rd round), Antoine Bibeau (6th round), Garrett Sparks (7th round)
BUT...the Leafs really haven't shown their draft record to be worthy on banking on those late picks blossoming because they have bombed with their higher selections when they have them. A guy like Bibeau had a great playoff run but his overall QMJHL numbers are mediocre. Connor Brown's talent isn't necessarily what is going to prevent him from being a star, it's his size and lack of skating ability to handle the NHL.
Hopefully we get lucky and some of these guys are going to become something, but they are all also development players. The Leafs haven't really been getting guys who suprise and make the team. That's a necessity in the NHL these days to keep your salaries manageable.
