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Flames @ Leafs - Feb. 24th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

herman said:
If I'm Engvall or Mikheyev or Boyd at that point of the game, I'm thinking, don't let anyone get open or get a chance.

If I'm Nylander or Marner or Matthews or Tavares, I'm thinking, next goal wins so I gotta get it on top of don't let them score.

What Nylander needs to add to his game, that Marner and Matthews have, is the mindset of "If I stay on top of the play and in good position, it will give me more and more options throughout the game to make a good play and generate offense". If he does this, he gets more minutes and more opportunities to positively impact the game and feel great.

Nylander needs to recognize the open player and adjust. As it's been said, it's one error, leading to another error, leading to a puck in the back of the net.

If the argument becomes that Nylander should be covering the Dman, what is he doing a foot above the hash marks?
 
OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
If I'm Engvall or Mikheyev or Boyd at that point of the game, I'm thinking, don't let anyone get open or get a chance.

If I'm Nylander or Marner or Matthews or Tavares, I'm thinking, next goal wins so I gotta get it on top of don't let them score.

What Nylander needs to add to his game, that Marner and Matthews have, is the mindset of "If I stay on top of the play and in good position, it will give me more and more options throughout the game to make a good play and generate offense". If he does this, he gets more minutes and more opportunities to positively impact the game and feel great.

Nylander needs to recognize the open player and adjust. As it's been said, it's one error, leading to another error, leading to a puck in the back of the net.

If the argument becomes that Nylander should be covering the Dman, what is he doing a foot above the hash marks?

Cherry picking.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I was just going to post to Andy that I thought Nylander was too slow to react to the open man, but the blame here is very arguable.  Whether it's on Engvall or Nylander, the concern is letting a guy get open at that point in a 0-0 game.  You'd hope the primary team-D  awareness would be to not let that happen.

Yea, I can agree with that. Has to be better coverage in that situation for sure, with plenty of blame going all around. I just didn't agree with you that it was more on Nylander than on Engvall, that's all.
 
Andy said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I was just going to post to Andy that I thought Nylander was too slow to react to the open man, but the blame here is very arguable.  Whether it's on Engvall or Nylander, the concern is letting a guy get open at that point in a 0-0 game.  You'd hope the primary team-D  awareness would be to not let that happen.

Yea, I can agree with that. Has to be better coverage in that situation for sure, with plenty of blame going all around. I just didn't agree with you that it was more on Nylander than on Engvall, that's all.
Oh it was more on Engvall...well actually Holl I believe with the bad pass. My issue with Willy on the play was that he actually went to the right place but he didn't engage with the guy. He did the same thing against Montreal and Josh Anderson. He went to the right spot to cover the open man, but didn't engage. Only difference was they scored on this one last night.
Anyway in the end he was a difference maker last night and I think we all hope he can get it rolling. Guy has some serious skills.
 
herman said:
Willy didn't recognize the coverage gap in time to gain a useful defensive posture on his numeric counterpart (who is known to be hella sneaky).

Nylander actually positioned himself behind Mangiapane with a tiny bit of time to spare. He could have probably gotten there a second or two earlier but I don't think that changes the outcome. His stick check, which is his biggest defensive ability and at least at one point was something he was among the league leaders in, just missed by inches. We're probably overanalyzing this a little.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Andy said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I was just going to post to Andy that I thought Nylander was too slow to react to the open man, but the blame here is very arguable.  Whether it's on Engvall or Nylander, the concern is letting a guy get open at that point in a 0-0 game.  You'd hope the primary team-D  awareness would be to not let that happen.

Yea, I can agree with that. Has to be better coverage in that situation for sure, with plenty of blame going all around. I just didn't agree with you that it was more on Nylander than on Engvall, that's all.
Oh it was more on Engvall...well actually Holl I believe with the bad pass. My issue with Willy on the play was that he actually went to the right place but he didn't engage with the guy. He did the same thing against Montreal and Josh Anderson. He went to the right spot to cover the open man, but didn't engage. Only difference was they scored on this one last night.
Anyway in the end he was a difference maker last night and I think we all hope he can get it rolling. Guy has some serious skills.

You guys are right, I should have said it was on Nylander as well as Engvall (and Holl I guess).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Willy didn't recognize the coverage gap in time to gain a useful defensive posture on his numeric counterpart (who is known to be hella sneaky).

Nylander actually positioned himself behind Mangiapane with a tiny bit of time to spare. He could have probably gotten there a second or two earlier but I don't think that changes the outcome. His stick check, which is his biggest defensive ability and at least at one point was something he was among the league leaders in, just missed by inches. We're probably overanalyzing this a little.

That's why God made us Leafs fans.
 

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