Flames sign O'Rielly to offer sheet.
- Thread starter Deebo
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From his twitter:
-Flames offer sheet on O'Reilly: Contract AA:$ 5,000.0 2012-2013: $1,000.0 (NHL) - SB: $2,500.0 2013-2014: $6,500.0 (NHL).
-O'Reilly details more clearly: 2 yrs .. 5M AAV ... 1m salary this year and 2.5 SB ... 6.5M salary next year.
-Flames offer sheet on O'Reilly: Contract AA:$ 5,000.0 2012-2013: $1,000.0 (NHL) - SB: $2,500.0 2013-2014: $6,500.0 (NHL).
-O'Reilly details more clearly: 2 yrs .. 5M AAV ... 1m salary this year and 2.5 SB ... 6.5M salary next year.
Deebo said:
A first and a third round draft pick. Had it gone over $5,046,585 a second would have been added as well.
Might seem like an easy sign for Colorado, but they would have to give him a qualifying offer based on that $6.5mil figure after the contract expires.
bustaheims
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I think Colorado still matches, but, yeah, that $6.5M 2nd year is a doozy. Of course, it could just as easily blow up in Calgary's face. O'Reilly has to prove that last season is the norm for him, not a career season.
Colorado has to agree to match here. They've dicked around the fans ever since Greg Sherman took over. They let Elliott go for nothing, he ends up winning the Jennings. The let Craig Anderson go, he ends up playing GREAT in Ottawa. They traded away a high first round pick for Semyon Varlamov after letting Elliot and Anderson go. They traded away the popular Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson who's never been able to have the kind of success people had hoped for. They even traded Wolski for Peter Mueller and then didn't even extend him a qualifying offer letting him walk to free agency.
What message does it send that they're willing to let a 22 year old heart-an-soul player go like that? Especially after all their other cases of mismanagement?
I feel for the Colorado hockey fans right now. They're a great hockey market who have been cast away at the hands of management.
What message does it send that they're willing to let a 22 year old heart-an-soul player go like that? Especially after all their other cases of mismanagement?
I feel for the Colorado hockey fans right now. They're a great hockey market who have been cast away at the hands of management.
#1PilarFan
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I like the move for Calgary though. Yeah, it's a lot of money to hand to a guy who probably projects as a good 2nd line center, but they need to get younger and take some chances. They've been putting off rebuilding for years now.bustaheims said:
bustaheims
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Another wrinkle - if the Avs match, they can't trade him for a calendar year - so, basically until the deadline next season.
bustaheims
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#1PilarFan said:
I don't know. They're in line to get a top 10 pick this year, possibly top 5. There's a very good chance that player will be just as good, if not better than O'Reilly - the top end of this year's draft is very good. O'Reilly will make them better, but I don't see him being good enough to pull them out of the bottom half of the league. It also puts them in a tight cap situation for next season if they want to re-sign Iginla and improve other areas of their team. The more I look at it, the less I like it from their perspective. Yes, they need changes and need to bring in youth and upgrade down the middle, but, the right thing for them would have been to tear things down instead of giving up a 1st round pick.
Corn Flake
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I think the Avs let him go. They get a 1st and a 3rd and that 1st could very likely be top 10, possibly even top 5 - to go along with their 1st which looks like it will be quite high as well.
As well, they've fought this long with him on the contract I can't see them suddenly agreeing to that price.
also... IS JFJ SLEEPING WTF!
As well, they've fought this long with him on the contract I can't see them suddenly agreeing to that price.
also... IS JFJ SLEEPING WTF!
maplesyrup
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Corn Flake said:I think the Avs let him go. They get a 1st and a 3rd and that 1st could very likely be top 10, possibly even top 5 - to go along with their 1st which looks like it will be quite high as well.
As well, they've fought this long with him on the contract I can't see them suddenly agreeing to that price.
also... IS JFJ SLEEPING WTF!
I'm fairly certain they let him go too.
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bustaheims said:
I think their goaltending should improve and I don't think they'll finish that low, but it's possible.
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Potvin29 said:
A healthy Kiprusoff will probably help, yeah, but, at the same time, he is 36. It could just be that he's slowed down just that little bit that gets him past the point of being the type of goalie he used to be. He's right around the age where it tends to happen.
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bustaheims said:
I can't imagine he'd be as bad as he started this season, and Calgary's 7th last with Joey MacDonald giving them their best goaltending at .907. I have to imagine Kiprusoff will be better, although he has alternated some pretty average-to-below average SV% seasons recently, so he might not bring that much of an improvement.
bustaheims
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mirtle: Avs have matched the O'Reilly offer sheet.
That was quick, but not surprising.
That was quick, but not surprising.
maplesyrup
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Nik Gida said:
Maybe they didn't know exactly what the market value was? Now they know.
EDIT: and boy was I wrong. I though they'd take the picks for sure.
bustaheims
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Nik Gida said:
I don't think they wanted to, but, when push came to shove, they decided he was more valuable to them than the draft picks. I think if the return was better than a 1st and a 3rd, they might have thought differently.