Game 12: Leafs @ Canadiens - 7:00pm, CBC, RDS, NHLN-US

[caver]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

 

[Kaberle15]

Some updates:

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050
James Reimer back in goal tonight in Montreal.

Based on morning skate, Randy Carlyle appears to be contemplating a Komarov-Grabovski-Kulemin unit. (finally!)

MacArthur with Kadri and Frattin.

Please, can somenone nails Gionta as soon as the puck drops so this SOB don't try to injury Reimer again ?

 

[pnjunction]

Based on morning skate, Randy Carlyle appears to be contemplating a Komarov-Grabovski-Kulemin unit. (finally!)

MacArthur with Kadri and Frattin.

Good, really need to kick start Mac, Grabbo and Kulie, no points for any of them in 4+ games!

 

[Bonsixx]

Based on morning skate, Randy Carlyle appears to be contemplating a Komarov-Grabovski-Kulemin unit. (finally!)

MacArthur with Kadri and Frattin.

Good, really need to kick start Mac, Grabbo and Kulie, no points for any of them in 4+ games!

I'm liking the idea of Grabo and Komarov together. Hopefully it pays off.

 

[sickbeast]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

If they continue winning, then yes.  At least do it after an ugly loss or something, not now.

 

[nutman]

Well things are looking good, ott just lost so a win against the Habs moves us up two slots to 5th. oh my I'm getting excited.. is this season looking good or what..

 

[pnjunction]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

If they continue winning, then yes.  At least do it after an ugly loss or something, not now.

Eking out a couple of one-goal victories doesn't change the fact that Kostka is -6 and our PP and PK have sunk to the bottom fifth of the league with him playing top pair.  Not all his fault, he's pretty good for an NHL rookie but it's time to give someone else a shot.

 

[Rebel_1812]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

If they continue winning, then yes.  At least do it after an ugly loss or something, not now.

Eking out a couple of one-goal victories doesn't change the fact that Kostka is -6 and our PP and PK have sunk to the bottom fifth of the league with him playing top pair.  Not all his fault, he's pretty good for an NHL rookie but it's time to give someone else a shot.

that is why they are playing holzer now.  I'm surprised an NHL vet like Liles or Komi or Franson are being played less they NHL rookies. 

 

[pnjunction]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

If they continue winning, then yes.  At least do it after an ugly loss or something, not now.

Eking out a couple of one-goal victories doesn't change the fact that Kostka is -6 and our PP and PK have sunk to the bottom fifth of the league with him playing top pair.  Not all his fault, he's pretty good for an NHL rookie but it's time to give someone else a shot.

that is why they are playing holzer now.  I'm surprised an NHL vet like Liles or Komi or Franson are being played less they NHL rookies.

I have said before that it is a sad testament to the overpaid duds those guys have been.  Carlyle decides to move the guy with 11 games off the top pair and he finds a guy with a only 6 to be a better choice than those veterans.

 

[Bullfrog]

Honestly, I'd like to see them try MacArthur on the left point with Phaneuf on the right if they don't want Liles there.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I don't think they should have split up Kostka and Phaneuf.  When we give up a lot of goals tonight and lose, you guys will see that I am right.

This is the problem with Toronto.  The fans and the media are too moody.  What happened to all the people who were raving, going on and on about Kostka at the beginning of the season?  He's been playing fine with Phaneuf IMO.  Fine, take him off the powerplay, but for a young player to log that many minutes and not give up too many chances, he has done very well so far IMO.

Though impressed with Kostka, many felt he was playing too many minutes and also felt he was holding Phaneuf back. Placing Phaneuf with a stay at home guy like Holzer, it allows Phaneuf to play a little more up the ice which will hopefully pot us more chances from the back end.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  The Leafs just won 2 games in a row.  They also only gave up 1 goal to Boston.  This move is really stupid IMO.

Pretty sure that in the last game Holzer skated with Phaneuf for much of the 3rd period. Might of been imagining it though.


edit; In looking up the stats, Holzer did play 4 minutes more in the last game than Kostka.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Honestly, I'd like to see them try MacArthur on the left point with Phaneuf on the right if they don't want Liles there.

That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would also free up room for both Kadri and Frattin to play with Grabovski on the second unit, assuming they bump Kulemin off it as well.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

You may feel it is stupid but Carlyle needs to have a look at different combinations early in the season. Are you suggesting he leaves Kostka with Phanuef all season without even attempting new line ups ?

If they continue winning, then yes.  At least do it after an ugly loss or something, not now.

Eking out a couple of one-goal victories doesn't change the fact that Kostka is -6 and our PP and PK have sunk to the bottom fifth of the league with him playing top pair.  Not all his fault, he's pretty good for an NHL rookie but it's time to give someone else a shot.

that is why they are playing holzer now.  I'm surprised an NHL vet like Liles or Komi or Franson are being played less they NHL rookies.

I have said before that it is a sad testament to the overpaid duds those guys have been.  Carlyle decides to move the guy with 11 games off the top pair and he finds a guy with a only 6 to be a better choice than those veterans.

Franson is getting paid 1.2 million, Has 5 points, and is a +2. I'd say he's done quite well this year so far. People forget that he was only a 5/6 guy in Nashville and they expected way too much out of him. But I'm happy with his progress and I'm not worried when he's on the ice. I'd say he's far from a dud.

Liles can't replace Kostka on Phaneuf's pairing. It doesn't add the defensive player needed. He also averages 20 minutes a game so it's not like they're shying away from him.

Komisarek is a bust but isn't as much of a worry when he's on the ice this year as he was in the past.



I don't think the change has anything to do with Kostka and it has more to do with Phaneuf and the need for him to start contributing.

 

[SinceKeon]

Really hoping to see the  Komarov Grabovski Kulemin line , since the start of the season.

Leafs  4    habs  2.          Komarov  1st star.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

The most shocking thing to me is that they haven't given Frattin more PP ice, put him on the other side of the ice from Kessel, have someone in front of the net and you have Kessel and Frattin as one timer threats.

Part of the problem with our PP has been lack of movement and one-timers, they constantly try to go back to the point for Dion and that's been woeful.

 

[Bender]

I don't think they should have split up Kostka and Phaneuf.  When we give up a lot of goals tonight and lose, you guys will see that I am right.

This is the problem with Toronto.  The fans and the media are too moody.  What happened to all the people who were raving, going on and on about Kostka at the beginning of the season?  He's been playing fine with Phaneuf IMO.  Fine, take him off the powerplay, but for a young player to log that many minutes and not give up too many chances, he has done very well so far IMO.

Totally agree. Heads are called to roll when something isn't done the second it falters once rather than showing patience. Man, I would hate to see what this place would look like during a proper rebuild when one of our "blue chip" prospects develops slower than Kadri.

 

[13th fan]

I think we are in for a battle tonight 3-2 win for the Leafs but what the heck do I know , my pants are full of poop

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I don't think they should have split up Kostka and Phaneuf.  When we give up a lot of goals tonight and lose, you guys will see that I am right.

This is the problem with Toronto.  The fans and the media are too moody.  What happened to all the people who were raving, going on and on about Kostka at the beginning of the season?  He's been playing fine with Phaneuf IMO.  Fine, take him off the powerplay, but for a young player to log that many minutes and not give up too many chances, he has done very well so far IMO.

Totally agree. Heads are called to roll when something isn't done the second it falters once rather than showing patience. Man, I would hate to see what this place would look like during a proper rebuild when one of our "blue chip" prospects develops slower than Kadri.

You guys act like the fans called for Kostka to be moved off the 1st pairing? I mean, it wasn't an NHL coach or anything that decided to change the line up.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Elliot Friedman really is a hot mess, someone needs to get him to Bob MacKenzie's tailor and barber, stat!

 

[Boston Leaf]

how long until Prust and Orr go