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Deebo said:I am experincing similar feelings, but I know I'll be back on board in October.
Yep, same here, things always look brighter in October.
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Deebo said:I am experincing similar feelings, but I know I'll be back on board in October.
Mack674 said:I'm with you man. This season was the back breaker for me and I just can't be bothered anymore. I havn't bothered to watch the last three games and im actually amused at how they keep losing night after night.
2-12-2. Thats not a made up stat, thats real life. Amazing.
Years and years of mediocrity and now its not even that. They can't even crawl into 8th place anymore and will soon be the only team holding the glorious title of "Havn't made the playoffs since the lockout". The Columbus Blue Jackets have had more success than the Leafs. The Minnesota Wild. Everybody.
With the way things are going the future doesn't look much better either and the only way to really turn this around is to blow it all up and start again by DRAFTING PLAYERS and building a team through THE DRAFT like every other successful team in the league has done.
Reference Don Cherrys rant last week about how all these teams, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Vancouver, Boston etc have Ontario born players... well actually, they built their own teams through developing their own players rather than trading everything they have and all their picks away for players and then signing them to outrageous contracts and burying them in the minors. Unless you're the Rangers, that doesn't work.
That being said, even IF thats the route Burke takes (which I sincerely doubt he will because of his ego) it would take at least 3-5 years before the Leafs are any good again once said drafted players get here and get to be solid NHL players. So probobly, it will be even longer than that because we will have to wait for Burke to finish failing miserably (another season likely) and then bring in a new GM and then hope and pray to the galactic hockey gods that they finally swallow their pride for once and do it right.
Almost 50 years of the same approach hasn't worked, you think maybe it's time to rethink things? We used to be upset if we didnt at least make the conference finals, now im at the point where I don't even remember what playoff games are like.
Like many others the magic is long lost for me as well and I just can't be f-ing bothered anymore. Wake me up in 6 years.
OUT.
moon111 said:Maybe some aren't old enough to remember the 80's. The Leafs of that era rushed allot of forwards into the NHL, never taught them the basics of two-way hockey, played run-and-gun, and never ever had any real success. As painful as this might be, this, what you've recently witnessed...is the road to real success. Start off with some Pat Burns defense and then slowly open the offensive flood gates. Leafs won't be successful until at least Darcy Tucker's contract comes off the books.
LuncheonMeat said:moon111 said:Maybe some aren't old enough to remember the 80's. The Leafs of that era rushed allot of forwards into the NHL, never taught them the basics of two-way hockey, played run-and-gun, and never ever had any real success. As painful as this might be, this, what you've recently witnessed...is the road to real success. Start off with some Pat Burns defense and then slowly open the offensive flood gates. Leafs won't be successful until at least Darcy Tucker's contract comes off the books.
You beat me to it. I lived through the Leafs of the 80's, so seasons like this are actually something to look forward to.
Madferret said:I think every sports fan has hit rock-bottom at some point. I know what you're saying but at the same time I think you might care about it more than you want to believe.
My rock bottom was the Lalime meltdown, if it makes any of you feel better.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Burke is vastly overrated, and gets a free pass because he is a blustering entertainer.
If I'm right about that, it tells you 90% of what you need to know about this team.
moon111 said:Maybe some aren't old enough to remember the 80's. The Leafs of that era rushed allot of forwards into the NHL, never taught them the basics of two-way hockey, played run-and-gun, and never ever had any real success. As painful as this might be, this, what you've recently witnessed...is the road to real success. Start off with some Pat Burns defense and then slowly open the offensive flood gates. Leafs won't be successful until at least Darcy Tucker's contract comes off the books.
Bender said:I don't really think the fans' perception of how they feel about Burke will ultimately have much bearing on his job evaluation at the end of the year.
What makes the Rangers so special?
Mack674 said:Nothing, they just lucked out for once after years and years of signing every single FA that was available and finally have a decent team for once but usually it doesn't work out too well as it hasnt for them in years past.
Mack674 said:Your right about those guys but thats what I mean when I say they kind of lucked out - anyone trading for Gomez must have been on crystal meth and I still cant believe Montreal took him. It still boggles my mind to this day. If the world made any sense, the Rangers should still be handcuffed by that horrible contract.
Erndog said:Every year I go on a rollercoaster of emotion.
Up, down, somwhere in the middle... excited, pissed, angered, overjoyed, lulled, tired, ecstatic, enthused, excited, frustrated, etc, etc.
I'm at the "I don't give 2 craps anymore and think they will suck for an eternity" phase.
I actually talked about this with an old TMLfans.ca regular just last night. Someone who doesn't post here anymore but who I (many of us?) shared the early 2000's playoff victories with. I think we've both had enough.
KGB said:Even when they were doing decently this season I just couldn't muster up any passion, and now I'm totally checked out. The franchise has been in the doldrums for so long that they've finally lost me. If we showed signs of a real turnaround (as in 1993 and 1999) I'd be on board, but even when the team was in the top 8 this year, there were no signs that they were actually improved over years past. As a result, I stopped making it a priority to watch games, to listen to games, to check in here each and every day. I was completely uninterested in the trade deadline. The firing of Ron Wilson, which would have pleased me to no end last year, just seemed an inevitable matter-of-fact. When they lose, it doesn't bother me. When they win, it doesn't excite me.
The 8 years of mediocrity has finally gotten to me. It's frightening to look back at all the changes in my life that have happened since the last time the Leafs made the playoffs. It reminds me that there are far more important things in this world than living vicariously through a hockey team. Even a year or two ago I could fantasize about what it would be like for the Leafs to win a Cup and how the tears would fall, but now I'm not sure it matters to me any more.
Am I the only one?
Oracle said:KGB said:Even when they were doing decently this season I just couldn't muster up any passion, and now I'm totally checked out. The franchise has been in the doldrums for so long that they've finally lost me. If we showed signs of a real turnaround (as in 1993 and 1999) I'd be on board, but even when the team was in the top 8 this year, there were no signs that they were actually improved over years past. As a result, I stopped making it a priority to watch games, to listen to games, to check in here each and every day. I was completely uninterested in the trade deadline. The firing of Ron Wilson, which would have pleased me to no end last year, just seemed an inevitable matter-of-fact. When they lose, it doesn't bother me. When they win, it doesn't excite me.
The 8 years of mediocrity has finally gotten to me. It's frightening to look back at all the changes in my life that have happened since the last time the Leafs made the playoffs. It reminds me that there are far more important things in this world than living vicariously through a hockey team. Even a year or two ago I could fantasize about what it would be like for the Leafs to win a Cup and how the tears would fall, but now I'm not sure it matters to me any more.
Am I the only one?
8 years of mediocrity? 8 years!? You're just a newbie. Grab a beer, siddown, and watch the game! lol
Oracle said:8 years of mediocrity? 8 years!? You're just a newbie. Grab a beer, siddown, and watch the game! lol