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:-( is it true?? Reimer wants a trade....

I had assumed he's wanted a trade since the end of the season.

When the Leafs needed him to step up at the end of the year, he was terrible. I like the guy, but he's not a good backup, and an average at best starter.
 
2badknees said:
I had assumed he's wanted a trade since the end of the season.

When the Leafs needed him to step up at the end of the year, he was terrible. I like the guy, but he's not a good backup, and an average at best starter.

Prior to last year, he had a slightly better career save percentage than Bernier... I think they are roughly equal players, but goalies are impossible to predict ...
 
This doesn't surprise me in the least. Once Bernier took over the #1 role Reimer got all moody, rolled his eyes at Carlyle from time to time and generally whined about playing time, even though he showed nothing to warrant him deserving more.
Good riddance!
 
princedpw said:
2badknees said:
I had assumed he's wanted a trade since the end of the season.

When the Leafs needed him to step up at the end of the year, he was terrible. I like the guy, but he's not a good backup, and an average at best starter.

Prior to last year, he had a slightly better career save percentage than Bernier... I think they are roughly equal players, but goalies are impossible to predict ...

Yeah, after head trauma he's around league average. When not concussed, he's a .920+ goalie. Like Bernier. But neither seems very durable, so I wouldn't really count on either of them.

I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.
 
For the last time...please...THEY DID NOT ONLY ALLOW OUTSIDE SHOTS...it has been shown that actually the majority of shots Toronto allowed where from very high percentage areas.

The line about letting other teams shoot from the outside was utter bullshit peddled by the Leafs to try and reduce the heat they faced from being completely dominated most nights
 
mr grieves said:
Yeah, after head trauma he's around league average. When not concussed, he's a .920+ goalie. Like Bernier.

So you diagnosed him with a concussion last year? The Leafs were pretty culpable in letting him play 36 mediocre games then.

mr grieves said:
I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.

Mike Kostka, Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne...it's like the team is just shedding all-stars.
 
moon111 said:
Once again, did the Leafs let allot of outside shots?  If so, that save percentage is meaningless.

No.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2013/2/25/4019356/randy-carlyle-coaching-myth-narrative-systems-leafs-defense
 
moon111 said:
Once again, did the Leafs let allot of outside shots?  If so, that save percentage is meaningless.

Well if you watched a good majority of the games I think you could easily come to the conclusion that the Leafs not only let a lot of outside shots but they also let a lot of inside, beside and in front shot as well.

The Leafs had more shots against per game than Buffalo last season. The defence was an absolute joke. Whatever you know or think you know about "outside shots" is meaningless; the team only did things to make the goaltending look worse, not better.
 
Nik the Trik said:
mr grieves said:
I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.

Mike Kostka, Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne...it's like the team is just shedding all-stars.

And I suppose you think Reimer is nearer the level of Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, and Joe Colburne than Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, and J.M. Liles? 

I should've said: 'like the last several good players to depart.' Apologies. Yeah, mediocrities will be mediocre anywhere. But good players who have off years here seem to get dumped and end up doing pretty well elsewhere.
 
Andy007 said:
The Leafs had more shots against per game than Buffalo last season. The defence was an absolute joke. Whatever you know or think you know about "outside shots" is meaningless; the team only did things to make the goaltending look worse, not better.

While I don't agree with the "outside shots" narrative I don't think that the idea that a team that is bad defensively can lead to an inflated sv% for a goaltender is outside the realm of possibility. Ken Dryden, who's a reasonable authority on goaltending, said as much. The idea that it can be easier to get into the flow of a game facing tons of shots than it can be when your team is dominating the play.

Ryan Miller went from one of the worst defensive teams in the NHL last year to one of the best and his sv% was 20 points higher with the Sabres than with the Blues. Jaroslav Halak likewise went from the #3 team in SA to the #27 team and his sv% increased 13 points.

So while I don't agree that "outside shots" can explain away defensive woes, I buy that it can lead to overrating individual goaltenders.
 
mr grieves said:
And I suppose you think Reimer is nearer the level of Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, and Joe Colburne than Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, and J.M. Liles? 

I think that if you're including 35 point seasons and 30+ mediocre games on a terrible Carolina team as players "doing well" elsewhere" and evidence of errors of judgment on Nonis' part then James Reimer can probably clear that bar, sure.
 
mr grieves said:
Nik the Trik said:
mr grieves said:
I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.

Mike Kostka, Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne...it's like the team is just shedding all-stars.

And I suppose you think Reimer is nearer the level of Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, and Joe Colburne than Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, and J.M. Liles? 

I should've said: 'like the last several good players to depart.' Apologies. Yeah, mediocrities will be mediocre anywhere. But good players who have off years here seem to get dumped and end up doing pretty well elsewhere.

I think it's debatable whether or not Liles and Grabovski did well elsewhere. I mean, 13 goals doesn't scream "Look at what you're missing!"
 
OldTimeHockey said:
mr grieves said:
Nik the Trik said:
mr grieves said:
I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.

Mike Kostka, Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne...it's like the team is just shedding all-stars.

And I suppose you think Reimer is nearer the level of Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, and Joe Colburne than Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, and J.M. Liles? 

I should've said: 'like the last several good players to depart.' Apologies. Yeah, mediocrities will be mediocre anywhere. But good players who have off years here seem to get dumped and end up doing pretty well elsewhere.

I think it's debatable whether or not Liles and Grabovski did well elsewhere. I mean, 13 goals doesn't scream "Look at what you're missing!"

Well, he was at a 50-point pace between a 2nd/3rd line in an injury-hampered season. The Caps sites say his linemates were more productive and more defensively sound when he played with them. Both Liles and Grabovski had impressive goal shares with their new teams. So, I'd say while they weren't First All-Star Team seasons, they had good seasons.   
 
Reimer seems like a great person and a stand up guy but in my opinion he's really not more than a competent nhl goaltender. He's decent enough but no one is going to build a team around him.

 
Not surprising. You could tell throughout the year his frustration level was rising. Unfortunately for him, I just see a handful of situations for him that would be better than what he endured last season. Still think Winnipeg is the most logical destination. And if not there, then Calgary.

Was never a huge Reimer fan, but I wish him well as he seems to be one of the nicest guys out there.
 
Joe S. said:
Reimer seems like a great person and a stand up guy but in my opinion he's really not more than a competent nhl goaltender. He's decent enough but no one is going to build a team around him.

I don't think there are too many teams who have built around their goalies.  I think recent winners have shown that you don't necessarily need an elite goaltender but a great overall team, as almost any starter can get hot and win you the Cup in a playoffs.  Quick's stats were rather average to below average for the regular season but LA was good enough to get past that and he played great for most of the playoffs.
 

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