bustaheims
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Joe S. said:You think so? I thought altuve pretty much had it wrapped up... Unless he falls off a cliff in September...
I think it's probably Bett's to lose, for a lot of the reasons Nik mentions.
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Joe S. said:You think so? I thought altuve pretty much had it wrapped up... Unless he falls off a cliff in September...
Joe S. said:On a completely separate note, why is the media treating what is happening to thole like it's a thing? He's about as valuable to this team as Venditte was...
Joe S. said:Those are all good points... I guess I'm still stuck in traditional metrics - I really need to start diving into advanced metrics and making the effort to understand them...
Nik the Trik said:Kind of interestingly Altuve's bWAR is almost entirely a result of his hitting, with a offensive WAR of 7.2(putting him just behind Trout). Betts is a ways behind at 5.3 but he closes the gap because he's grading as having a spectacular defensive season.
So that might tilt things a little bit in Altuve's way. I think defensive ability is harder to gauge and with less certainty so with Altuve being a reigning gold glover some people out there might read the defense as a wash despite the advanced numbers and just look at Altuve's significantly better year at the plate.
bustaheims said:I dunno. I also think a lot of the old school voters will look at Betts' numbers and see the kinds of numbers they like to see that Altuve may not be able to reach - 30+ HR, 100+ RBIs, etc - and feel like that more than makes up for the difference between their respective batting averages. The rest of their raw numbers are awfully close. I mean, to an old school type, the only thing Altuve really has on Betts is that he walks more - and, I can see them not valuing that anywhere close as high as they should.
Potvin29 said:Which is more accurate, bWAR or fWAR? Donaldson ranks 2nd in the AL in fWAR behind Trout (7.2 to 6.9).
They got rid of him to make room for Navarro and now that the roster has expanded they had room to bring him back.Frank E said:Can someone explain to me what just happened with Thole?
Please and thank you.
cabber24 said:THE SKY IS FALLING! It truly is, this awful streak just keeps going and going. We all know their not this bad but COME ON, SNAP OUT OF IT!
6 man rotation? Looming contracts? Don't care... figure it out.
Frank E said:Do we really think this is Gibby's fault?