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Leafs @ Habs - Nov. 30th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

lamajama said:
Bender said:
This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen.

No that was the Pittsburgh game....and the <insert any other game here> game.

Not really. If you watched the game I don't know how could argue that it wasn't biased.
 
AvroArrow said:
Really? Phaneuf gets 2 minutes for Subban coming after him?

Talk about biased officiating...

One amongst the many questionable calls against the Leafs. The biggest being Malkin running our goalie and it counting but JVR standing in front of Price counts as interference and a goal is waived off. The only consistency is inconsistency.
 
Bender said:
AvroArrow said:
Really? Phaneuf gets 2 minutes for Subban coming after him?

Talk about biased officiating...

One amongst the many questionable calls against the Leafs. The biggest being Malkin running our goalie and it counting but JVR standing in front of Price counts as interference and a goal is waived off. The only consistency is inconsistency.

What was the deal with someone tripping up Bernier behind the net, too?  Kadri bumps into a goalie = penalty.  Someone bumps into Bernier = no penalty because reasons.  O_o
 
In the last five games or so the other teams have been running our goalies a lot. I don't get why they are getting away with it, but it seems teams coming in have figured out the key to beating the leafs, is to get into there goalies space, and hit them.
For some reason the refs are letting the excess goalie interference  go, but if we do it, bang two mins.
 
Bender said:
This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen.

I'm trying hard to not be the guy that harps on the refs constantly, but man, last night was another stinker from the refs. I still can't over that JvR goalie interference call.

In fairness, there were some missed calls on the Habs too, but none so blatant.
 
I'm convinced that Bozak could turn and slap the puck at Carlyle's head with it redirecting off his head and into the Leafs net, somehow counting, in overtime, without Carlyle taking him off the top line.

Seriously, Kadri gets thrown onto other lines every other game, but Bozak? Not once.
 
Bullfrog said:
Bender said:
This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen.

I'm trying hard to not be the guy that harps on the refs constantly, but man, last night was another stinker from the refs. I still can't over that JvR goalie interference call.

In fairness, there were some missed calls on the Habs too, but none so blatant.

What I don't understand is how that's not reviewable. I mean, why did he waive it off so blatantly? Why didn't he say "Hmm, he may have been bumped, he may have not, we should go to review." But I mean, really he didn't have a great angle on the play. He was behind the net and couldn't really judge the gap between Price and JvR.

I'm pretty sure there was also a semi-JvR breakaway no call, Kessel was confused at the ref all night, Bernier got tripped behind the net blatantly with no call, Subban comes at Phaneuf, Phaneuf defends himself and only Phaneuf gets a penalty?? I mean, it was just a bizarro land style of officiating last night. I normally don't get on them that bad but my jaw was open half the time at the calls last night.

Like I said, the only thing consistent about the officiating was the inconsistency.
 
Potvin29 said:
I'm convinced that Bozak could turn and slap the puck at Carlyle's head with it redirecting off his head and into the Leafs net, somehow counting, in overtime, without Carlyle taking him off the top line.

Seriously, Kadri gets thrown onto other lines every other game, but Bozak? Not once.

And the one thing Bozak is at least competent at: faceoffs? 11-18 on the night. I guess that's why he was rewarded with 24+ minutes of icetime. Kadri was a meagre 50%.
 
Stickytape said:
Bender said:
AvroArrow said:
Really? Phaneuf gets 2 minutes for Subban coming after him?

Talk about biased officiating...

One amongst the many questionable calls against the Leafs. The biggest being Malkin running our goalie and it counting but JVR standing in front of Price counts as interference and a goal is waived off. The only consistency is inconsistency.

What was the deal with someone tripping up Bernier behind the net, too?  Kadri bumps into a goalie = penalty.  Someone bumps into Bernier = no penalty because reasons.  O_o

I hate that play on goalies - I'm pretty sure it was gallagher the little twerp. It's happened to the Leafs goalies a few times this year, and in the 3rd period of game 7 Marchand slew footed Reimer behind the Leafs net with no call.

The Leafs at least played pretty well for the most part...Price was very solid.

Still looked outcoached and confused for stretches of time. I think the Leafs reek of desperation and other teams know it.
 
Andy007 said:
Potvin29 said:
I'm convinced that Bozak could turn and slap the puck at Carlyle's head with it redirecting off his head and into the Leafs net, somehow counting, in overtime, without Carlyle taking him off the top line.

Seriously, Kadri gets thrown onto other lines every other game, but Bozak? Not once.

And the one thing Bozak is at least competent at: faceoffs? 11-18 on the night. I guess that's why he was rewarded with 24+ minutes of icetime. Kadri was a meagre 50%.

And both are around 45% on the season. I'm not saying Bozak is terrible or anything, but he takes a blender to seemingly every other C but him.
 
Bender said:
What I don't understand is how that's not reviewable.

Because, the current set of reviewable plays are pretty limited, and are limited to things that aren't open to a lot of interpretation - they only about how the puck was put in the net, not what else happened to allow that to happen. The GMs want to expand it a bit, but, that hasn't happened yet and I'm not sure if goaltender interference is something they're looking to include, though it should be.
 
If that JVR goal had counted instead of being nullified on account of the goaltender interference factor, who knows if it would have turned the outcome of the game more in the Leafs favour?

Well, it didn't and that's that.  This team needs to get back to basics and start playing with a purpose again.

BTW Wasn't Orr's hand on Parros' head when he (Parros) almost fell?  Got the impression Orr instinctively tried to prevent a repeat of last time, or perhaps coincidence.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
BTW Wasn't Orr's hand on Parros' head when he (Parros) almost fell?  Got the impression Orr instinctively tried to prevent a repeat of last time, or perhaps coincidence.

I rewatched the clip a few times, and it was definitely deliberate on Orr's part.  He even turns his head to look Parros in the eye to make sure he was okay.
 
Stickytape said:
hockeyfan1 said:
BTW Wasn't Orr's hand on Parros' head when he (Parros) almost fell?  Got the impression Orr instinctively tried to prevent a repeat of last time, or perhaps coincidence.

I rewatched the clip a few times, and it was definitely deliberate on Orr's part.  He even turns his head to look Parros in the eye to make sure he was okay.

They mentioned it on the CBC broadcast as well.  I think that last scrap with parros when he ate the ice really had an effect on Orr.  How often does Orr not drop the mitts when asked (earlier in the game)?

Orr looked like he's lost his edge on Saturday but that may be an over reaction on my part.
 

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