Frank E said:Oh come on...they didn't have any sandpaper. They needed this. He's not Colton Orr.
We're going to have a 4th liner on the books for 4 years at $2.5mil. Sandpaper or not, that's not a good deal.
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Frank E said:Oh come on...they didn't have any sandpaper. They needed this. He's not Colton Orr.
Frank E said:McGarnagle said:Quadriple yuck.
Oh come on...they didn't have any sandpaper. They needed this. He's not Colton Orr.
CarltonTheBear said:We're going to have a 4th liner on the books for 4 years at $2.5mil. Sandpaper or not, that's not a good deal.
McGarnagle said:Babcock never has had much use in the past for these guys, why now?
CarltonTheBear said:I get that the contract isn't a complete anchor, but this deal just basically adds to a list of things I haven't been crazy about lately. In the last few weeks we've (in my opinion):
1) Overpaid for an unproven starting goalie, both in terms of assets required to get him and in the contract terms
2) Had a draft that focused largely on two things: overage players and size
3) Was one of the few teams to spark Stamkos' interest in a serious sense, so clearly their offer was legit (the pros and cons of this have been discussed enough though really)
4) Targeted two players on July 1st that address things like size, experience, and grit (Martin and Russell)
If you go back to last summer none of those things happened or would have happened. It's just an odd shift that I'm a little worried about.
CarltonTheBear said:Is this probably roughly what our line-up looks like right now?
JVR-Kadri-_____
_____-Bozak-Nylander
Komarov-Matthews-_____
Martin-Laich-_____
Sprinkle in Brown, Hyman, Soshnikov, Rychel, Marner, Michalek, Holland, Greening, Lupul.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:CarltonTheBear said:I get that the contract isn't a complete anchor, but this deal just basically adds to a list of things I haven't been crazy about lately. In the last few weeks we've (in my opinion):
1) Overpaid for an unproven starting goalie, both in terms of assets required to get him and in the contract terms
2) Had a draft that focused largely on two things: overage players and size
3) Was one of the few teams to spark Stamkos' interest in a serious sense, so clearly their offer was legit (the pros and cons of this have been discussed enough though really)
4) Targeted two players on July 1st that address things like size, experience, and grit (Martin and Russell)
If you go back to last summer none of those things happened or would have happened. It's just an odd shift that I'm a little worried about.
I largely agree. This, along with the draft after Matthews, makes me wonder how far Lamoriello really is from Burke's lineup vision.
Nik the Trik said:That is my one real question going forward. The logjam looks out of control. We're not even talking about a guy like Leipsic being on the team after a really great AHL year.
CarltonTheBear said:Is this probably roughly what our line-up looks like right now?
JVR-Kadri-Brown
Soshnikov-Bozak-Nylander
Komarov-Matthews-Marner
Martin-Laich-Hyman
CarltonTheBear said:And guys like Hyman, Soshnikov, and Brown are all players that Babcock seems to legitimately like, so I don't think he's going to give a veteran a spot just because they're veterans. I don't remember a time we've ever had that many potential NHL forwards coming into a training camp.