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Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
There's another certain trade that I think really blew up in his face.
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Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
Peter D. said:Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
There's another certain trade that I think really blew up in his face.
Tigger said:Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
From the sounds of what Busta said, no I don't think so, in fact even the initial deal that I hated didn't turn out completely bad with Kessel. Right now I think signing Komi is probably the worst move of them all.
Sarge said:Oh yeah, right... Thinking his team was better than it was when he did the Kessel deal. Fair enough. Mike Richards #2 then?
Nik Kulemin needs to get his arse in gear or that number is going to be significantly lower.Sarge said:Here's another thing I'm thinking about as I look towards next year... Assuming we resign Grabovski and Kulemin and retain MacArthur, we're looking at over a ~13 mil cap hit on these 3 for next year... Is anyone else kind of uncomfortable with that number?
Saint Nik said:Sarge said:Oh yeah, right... Thinking his team was better than it was when he did the Kessel deal. Fair enough. Mike Richards #2 then?
It's hard to label something that didn't happen a blunder because we don't know the conditions of it. If the story we heard is true then Burke may never have really had the chance if Philly genuinely preferred the package from LA and you can't fault him for that. If the story isn't true then, for all we know, anything could be true. Holmgren may have never intended to deal either guy to Toronto and was just trying to set a price.
So, yeah, still a ways to go to touch the Kessel trade, Komisarek signing and the lack of a competitive offer to Brad Richards.
Zee said:Tigger said:Sarge said:Is NOT doing the Kulemin + Kadri for Richards deal Burke's biggest blunder so far?
From the sounds of what Busta said, no I don't think so, in fact even the initial deal that I hated didn't turn out completely bad with Kessel. Right now I think signing Komi is probably the worst move of them all.
Worst thing about the Komisarek deal is the NMC. Why GMs continue to hand these things out to players that haven't even played 1 game for your team yet I have no idea. Would be nice to just bury Komisarek in the minors right now but we can't move him.
Sarge said:Here's another thing I'm thinking about as I look towards next year... Assuming we resign Grabovski and Kulemin and retain MacArthur, we're looking at over a ~13 mil cap hit on these 3 for next year... Is anyone else kind of uncomfortable with that number?
Saint Nik said:Sarge said:Here's another thing I'm thinking about as I look towards next year... Assuming we resign Grabovski and Kulemin and retain MacArthur, we're looking at over a ~13 mil cap hit on these 3 for next year... Is anyone else kind of uncomfortable with that number?
I'm no mathologist but that assumes Grabs/Kulemin get 10 million between them which, quite frankly, does not seem overly likely right now.
Saint Nik said:I'm no mathologist but that assumes Grabs/Kulemin get 10 million between them which, quite frankly, does not seem overly likely right now.
bustaheims said:Saint Nik said:I'm no mathologist but that assumes Grabs/Kulemin get 10 million between them which, quite frankly, does not seem overly likely right now.
Yeah. Depending on contract length, we're likely looking at $2.75M-$3.25M for Kulemin (unless he really picks up the pace over the rest of the season) and ~$5M for Grabovski, putting the cap hit for the line at ~$11M, which, for is quite reasonable for a 2nd line if they find a production level somewhere between this season and last season.
Sarge said:~4.5 for Grabs? ~4 for Kulemin? + 3.25 (Mac) = ~12 (sorry bad math) Still, I don't much like that total for these three. :-\
You think they would give him that amount based on current production?Sarge said:Wow! We're about a mil. apart on what we think Kulemin might get... For the Leafs sake, I hope I'm wrong.
Bingo!Saint Nik said:Sarge said:~4.5 for Grabs? ~4 for Kulemin? + 3.25 (Mac) = ~12 (sorry bad math) Still, I don't much like that total for these three. :-\
Right now Kulemin is on pace for a 9 goal, 32 point season. If he asks for and receives a four million dollar a year contract from Burke and Burke gives it to him then we've got significantly bigger problems than what the second line is making.
Sarge said:Wow! We're about a mil. apart on what we think Kulemin might get... For the Leafs sake, I hope I'm wrong.
Sarge said:Personally, I'm glad we stayed away from Brad Richards. Besides, I think he was signing with the Rangers regardless of what our offer was.