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bustaheims said:
Richards would be a good addition, but, well, he's not the big centre the Leafs ideally need - in fact, he's actually a little on the small side, even though he "plays big."
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I know we of course ideally would acquire a big number 1 centre, but I really wouldn't make size a priority. You can count on one hand the number of big, physically intimating top-line centres in the league. It's very unlikely we'll find a guy like that. I'd rather focus on adding size throughout the rest of the line-up than in that slot.
 
I'll tell you what...I am not hating the idea of going after carter as much as a week ago.

but they better make sure he would be happy here...and they better get him for nothing.

I'm talking the jackets can pick one of connolly or komi...and maybe a throw in late draft pick or low end prospect.  But anything more than that and they can look elsewhere.
 
McPwnage said:
Maybe we can do that deal for Richards deal that Phillie didn't give us time to make.  I still like him in the role of Toronto's number 1c.  We would have to dump connolly on them though or bury him with the Marlies.  I'm thinking Colborne + Kulemin + Connolly for Richards and a b prospect or a 2nd.
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Heck why dont you toss in kessel and the monster, no thanks. he is not worth that much, and i dont see him fitting in.
 
nutman said:
Madferret said:
I'd say the chances of Richards getting traded out of LA at this point are pretty slim.
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Good dont want him. I think Burke can do much better, and will.
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I'd temper your expectations a bit nutman. I'm really not sure Burke will be able to make a big splash before the deadline. I'm hoping for a great trade to happen too, but I wouldnt bet all the marbles on it happening in the next 3 wks.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I know we of course ideally would acquire a big number 1 centre, but I really wouldn't make size a priority. You can count on one hand the number of big, physically intimating top-line centres in the league. It's very unlikely we'll find a guy like that. I'd rather focus on adding size throughout the rest of the line-up than in that slot.
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Sure, but, that proposed deal take a lot of size out of the rest of the line-up - something the Leafs really can't afford to do.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I know we of course ideally would acquire a big number 1 centre, but I really wouldn't make size a priority. You can count on one hand the number of big, physically intimating top-line centres in the league. It's very unlikely we'll find a guy like that. I'd rather focus on adding size throughout the rest of the line-up than in that slot.
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Sure, but, that proposed deal take a lot of size out of the rest of the line-up - something the Leafs really can't afford to do.
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Yeah I wouldn't make that trade.
 
One guy from LA that I would love to see Burke trade for is Kyle Clifford. 21 years old, 6'2' and 208 lbs. Hits everything in sight. He doesn't factor much into LA's penalty killing, although the Kings are filled with forwards who can kill penalties. Not much of a scorer either, with just 23 points in 128 career games (although he's only in his 2nd professional season). The Kings have been playing him in a 2nd line role with Gagne out and he obviously isn't really putting up many points. Perhaps some sort of deal involving MacArthur and Clifford could be worked out? Clears out a spot for Kadri in the top-6 and adds some more size to the bottom-6.

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edit: I just remembered that Sutter is LA's coach now. Clifford probably isn't going anywhere.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
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@carlton: it sounds, from your description (i dont know how he plays) that clifford isnt that good at defense and is terrible at offense. i think that size is only a means to an end -- if it doesnt help you or your linemates either offensively or defensively it isnt something you should search out just for its own sake.  mac is pretty good both offensively and defensively, so i wouldnt even consider trading mac for clifford.
 
@carlton: it sounds, from your description (i dont know how he plays) that clifford isnt that good at defense and is terrible at offense. i think that size is only a means to an end -- if it doesnt help you or your linemates either offensively or defensively it isnt something you should search out just for its own sake.  mac is pretty good both offensively and defensively, so i wouldnt even consider trading mac for clifford.
 
Cliffords skating needs work. That said, he does seem to forecheck and hang around the net and can scrap with the best of them.

He wears the right number too. :)

I'm not sold on it but I wouldn't hate it either, his skating kind of bugs me. I'd be more inclined to have a Boyce or Crabb to be honest and I think the Leafs could get a better return for Mac, not sure what but better I think.
 
Tigger said:
Cliffords skating needs work. That said, he does seem to forecheck and hang around the net and can scrap with the best of them.

He wears the right number too. :)

I'm not sold on it but I wouldn't hate it either, his skating kind of bugs me. I'd be more inclined to have a Boyce or Crabb to be honest and I think the Leafs could get a better return for Mac, not sure what but better I think.
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If you'd prefer Boyce or Crabb then to me that says Cliffords is worth nothing -- at least nothing to the leafs.  Boyce and Crabb are near-minimum salary 4th-line players --- amongst the most easily replaced guys on the roster.  Adding another such guy isn't going to do anything to make the leafs win more games.

Mac had 60 points last year and is on pace for 25-30 goals pro-rated over an 82 game schedule this year.  That's good top-6 production.  He has a reasonable 3-million salary.  I could understand trading Mac for a good prospect or a nice draft pick but I don't see trading him for a 4th liner with no upside.
 
princedpw said:
I could understand trading Mac for a good prospect or a nice draft pick but I don't see trading him for a 4th liner with no upside.
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That's quite the projection for a player you admittedly don't know anything about.
 
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