Nonis using depth to go shopping....

[groundskeeper willie]

Who would you guys rather - Lindback / Schneider / Bernier, or Nash,  or Nash + some scrub back up a la Harding or Nabakov?

Nabokov/Khabibulin aren't that appealing, it's unlikely Giguere would be coming back, and I doubt Halak is really available. If Burke really wants to make a move before the deadline it may have to be for a guy like Harding or Bishop. Anything bigger (Schneider/Bernier) likely doesn't get done until the summer as those guys are needed where they are for their current teams runs.

If Harding or Bishop come cheap in a trade it might be worth giving them an extended tryout before they hit UFA. If they fail you make an attempt at one of the bigger fish that may be available in the summer. It's not an ideal solution, but it's better than standing pat. Making the playoffs isn't everything, but giving up on them completely at this point would be a mistake.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure. It's even more reasonable if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

 

[Madferret]

Who would you guys rather - Lindback / Schneider / Bernier, or Nash,  or Nash + some scrub back up a la Harding or Nabakov?

At this point probably Schneider but that ain't happening...

I think you have the assets to go after Schneider, although it would hurt the talent pool, and start another retool from there. That's like 80% of the battle right there. Reimer at 1.8 isn't that bad for a back-up.

Well maybe but I don't think Vancouver is interested in trading him.

They may not have interest in trading him but the reality of it is sooner or later they're going to have to or opt to move Luongo instead <which is who I really think they have no interest in trading>

 

[Redleaf]

Who would you guys rather - Lindback / Schneider / Bernier, or Nash,  or Nash + some scrub back up a la Harding or Nabakov?

I'm gonna go with Suter or Carter, because I don't think Nash is coming here regardless. As far as goaltending goes, (unless something presents itself)I would just let the chips fall Where they may and hold tight until the offseason, when the pickings might be a bit better.

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Because I don't think Phaneuf can handle the majority of the workload himself. And I don't see anyone with the same credentials on the team.

 

[Madferret]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure, even more so if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Dump him where?

 

[Tigger]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure. It's even more reasonable if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Yeah, minus Komisarek and given re-signing Franson for something reasonable the Leafs have about 19 mil tied up in their top six for next year. ( and I'm praying to hockey Jeebus that Komi is gone in some remarkable fashion )

 

[groundskeeper willie]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure, even more so if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Dump him where?

I still expect there to be a 'free' buyout with the new CBA. Almost has to be if the cap is dropping as believed.

If the CBA landscape doesn't change as expected, then his actual salary drops significantly for the rest of his contract starting next season, and players making less money than their cap hit may appeal to teams trying to hit the cap floor. I'm not saying teams will be lining up to get him, but moving him will at least become possible versus the impossibility of the last few seasons.

 

[Tigger]

Who would you guys rather - Lindback / Schneider / Bernier, or Nash,  or Nash + some scrub back up a la Harding or Nabakov?

At this point probably Schneider but that ain't happening...

I think you have the assets to go after Schneider, although it would hurt the talent pool, and start another retool from there. That's like 80% of the battle right there. Reimer at 1.8 isn't that bad for a back-up.

Well maybe but I don't think Vancouver is interested in trading him.

They may not have interest in trading him but the reality of it is sooner or later they're going to have to or opt to move Luongo instead <which is who I really think they have no interest in trading>

They shouldn't have a problem fitting everyone under the cap next year but if the neighgoats with the RFA Schneider get contentious then there's the whole black hole of trade possibilities between Nonis, Burke and Gillis, it's hard to say but I don't see it right now.

 

[Tigger]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure, even more so if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Dump him where?

On bended knee, praying for a free buyout period next year...

If Battlepope has any connections to the one true hockey Jeebus that is...

 

[Madferret]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure, even more so if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Dump him where?

I still expect there to be a 'free' buyout with the new CBA. Almost has to be if the cap is dropping as believed.

If the CBA landscape doesn't change as expected, then his actual salary drops significantly for the rest of his contract starting next season, and players making less money than their cap hit may appeal to teams trying to hit the cap floor. I'm not saying teams will be lining up to get him, but moving him will at least become possible versus the impossibility of the last few seasons.

I dunno willie the guy isn't even playing right now. I would doubt there is much if any interest / chance in getting rid of him if he keeps up his healthy scratch streak.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

Suter - Leafs are already spending enough on their blueline why add another big $ to it?

Not that I think Suter is likely making it to free agency, and if he does I doubt he signs in Toronto, but the idea that too much money is spent on the defense right now is only true because of Komisarek. Dump him and only Phanuef is above Liles $3.8 mil, which isn't an outrages salary structure. It's even more reasonable if Schenn does get traded, as everybody else is below $1.3 million.

Yeah, minus Komisarek and given re-signing Franson for something reasonable the Leafs have about 19 mil tied up in their top six for next year. ( and I'm praying to hockey Jeebus that Komi is gone in some remarkable fashion )

I forgot Franson was a RFA this summer. I wonder what he is going to get. It wouldn't surprise me if he was pushing $2 mil next year, although I'm hoping for a Gunnarsson-like contract.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

I dunno willie the guy isn't even playing right now. I would doubt there is much if any interest / chance in getting rid of him if he keeps up his healthy scratch streak.

Oh I know it would take some 'sweetening' to move him. Just that a 2nd rounder might do it, whereas nobody touches him the last few years, likely even with a 1st attached to him.

Still banking on the free buyout though, as the Leafs have as many as four players in line for that. If the cap is dropping there is no way the big market teams sign the CBA without either that or a league wide rollback on existing contracts. Or even both like the last time around.

 

[Tigger]

I forgot Franson was a RFA this summer. I wonder what he is going to get. It wouldn't surprise me if he was pushing $2 mil next year, although I'm hoping for a Gunnarsson-like contract.

I'm not sure he'll get 2 but that's the number I had in my head when I loosely calculated the overall hit for the top six minus Komisarek.

 

[Kaberle15]

I'm not sure he'll get 2 but that's the number I had in my head when I loosely calculated the overall hit for the top six minus Komisarek.

Cap Hit for D in 2012-2013 Season:


Phaneuf - 6.5Mi
Liles - 3.875 Mi
Schenn - 3.6Mi
Gunnar - 1.325 Mi
Gardiner - 1.117 Mi
Franson - RFA (800K this season)

Total of 16.417Mi + Franson new contract.

Komi cap hit is 4.5, he is signed till 2013-2014, his salary is 3.5Mi the next couple of seasons.

 

[The Red Polar Bear]

I'm not sure he'll get 2 but that's the number I had in my head when I loosely calculated the overall hit for the top six minus Komisarek.

Cap Hit for D in 2012-2013 Season:


Phaneuf - 6.5Mi
Liles - 3.875 Mi
Schenn - 3.6Mi
Gunnar - 1.325 Mi
Gardiner - 1.117 Mi
Franson - RFA (800K this season)

Total of 9.917Mi + Franson new contract.

Komi cap hit is 4.5, he is signed till 2013-2014, his salary is 3.5Mi the next couple of seasons.

9.9... plus Phaneuf's 6.5 of course

 

[Kaberle15]

9.9... plus Phaneuf's 6.5 of course

Fixed

 

[moon111]

Seems like the lowest paid defenseman on the Leafs is always the best.

 

[Redleaf]

Alright. What do we know about Dustin Brown? Any takers?

Darren Dreger ‏ @DarrenDreger
Dustin Brown's avail also puts heat on CBJ to make decision on Nash...soon. NYR,Tor Philly, just to name a few are interested.

Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
NHL on TSN panel discusses Carter-Johnson trade and more. Oh, yeah, Dustin Brown is in play. bit.ly/xImATz #TradeCentre #tsn

 

[Tigger]

In fantasy world, Brown and Ryan now, Suter and a starter in the offseason, pretty please?

I'll sit up even...

 

[Redleaf]

In fantasy world, Brown and Ryan now, Suter and a starter in the offseason, pretty please?

I'll sit up even...

They'll be playing the star spangled banner before every Leaf game if that happens.