Highlander
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We would run him out of town. Just like everybody else. What a fish bowl, what a snake pit, what a hockey Vatican.
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freer said:With all the rumors around right now, I for one would like to keep Polak. Thoughts?
CarltonTheBear said:I don't think that's awful, might be some salary concerns on Boston's end. I also wonder if they would really be all that interested in bringing Phil back. But I do agree with the value-side of it. My basic structure of a Kessel deal would be...
1) a A prospect/young player, but not an A+ prospect/young player like you said
2) 1st round draft pick
3) a B prospect/young player
4) cap space
Subban and the 1st obviously tick the first two boxes. Eriksson could be flipped for a 2nd rounder of somebody a little further along in his development. There's no long-term deals coming back and we aren't eating any of Phil's contract.
Obviously I would like a little more, but I'm coming to the grips that we'll end up a little disappointed in whatever return Kessel brings. That's kind of just the nature of how trades like these usually work out.
CarltonTheBear said:freer said:With all the rumors around right now, I for one would like to keep Polak. Thoughts?
He only has 1 year left on his contract, and it's unlikely he'll want to re-sign with a rebuilding team. So he's pretty much for sure getting traded at some point before next years trade deadline. If somebody like LA makes an offer that the Leafs think will be better than what they'll get next year then it makes sense to pull the trigger.
I wouldn't trade him for scraps though, he's the type of defencemen playoff teams covet. So if there's nobody biting now because there's a year left on his contract and teams are wary about next years cap situation, then hold onto him until 2016 when he might have more value as an expiring contract.
Rebel_1812 said:CarltonTheBear said:freer said:With all the rumors around right now, I for one would like to keep Polak. Thoughts?
He only has 1 year left on his contract, and it's unlikely he'll want to re-sign with a rebuilding team. So he's pretty much for sure getting traded at some point before next years trade deadline. If somebody like LA makes an offer that the Leafs think will be better than what they'll get next year then it makes sense to pull the trigger.
I wouldn't trade him for scraps though, he's the type of defencemen playoff teams covet. So if there's nobody biting now because there's a year left on his contract and teams are wary about next years cap situation, then hold onto him until 2016 when he might have more value as an expiring contract.
yeah, he just got traded here and said it was an adjustment because their isn't the winning culture here. I don't think he wants to stay, so it is best to get some value for him.
CarltonTheBear said:I don't think that's awful, might be some salary concerns on Boston's end. I also wonder if they would really be all that interested in bringing Phil back. But I do agree with the value-side of it. My basic structure of a Kessel deal would be...
1) a A prospect/young player, but not an A+ prospect/young player like you said
2) 1st round draft pick
3) a B prospect/young player
4) cap space
Subban and the 1st obviously tick the first two boxes. Eriksson could be flipped for a 2nd rounder of somebody a little further along in his development. There's no long-term deals coming back and we aren't eating any of Phil's contract.
Obviously I would like a little more, but I'm coming to the grips that we'll end up a little disappointed in whatever return Kessel brings. That's kind of just the nature of how trades like these usually work out.
Potvin29 said:Yes the guy with 6 career playoff games has to adjust to a non-winning culture.
And actually he didn't say that anyway. He said there was a lot of "negative energy" and then clarified that by saying: "It's not like guys are negative in the room. What I meant is around the team, like from the media. It comes with the market."
CarltonTheBear said:Potvin29 said:Yes the guy with 6 career playoff games has to adjust to a non-winning culture.
And actually he didn't say that anyway. He said there was a lot of "negative energy" and then clarified that by saying: "It's not like guys are negative in the room. What I meant is around the team, like from the media. It comes with the market."
Might want to re-read what you were quoting.
pmrules said:What I would like to do is I am willing to sacrifice that 3rd "B" prospect to make the A prospect an A+ and put a range on that pick.
Nik the Trik said:pmrules said:What I would like to do is I am willing to sacrifice that 3rd "B" prospect to make the A prospect an A+ and put a range on that pick.
That's very generous of you but the point CTB is referring to of mine is that teams don't trade that sort of prospect. If a team is willing to trade a young player there's going to be a reason. Even Seguin, who's probably going to take Joe Thornton's place in people making unrealistic trade proposals from now on, was only available because there were serious concerns about his maturity level.
Chris said:Who knows if Nylander (for example) will ever be as good as Kessel, will ever have the impact Kessel has had? I could see a team trading a Nylander-like prospect for Kessel if the circumstances were right. Not saying I'd recommend it, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.
Chris said:Agree that it's unlikely that some of the players being mentioned would be traded for Kessel, especially if they are already making an impact in the NHL. But for someone who is still 18 or 19 and years away from having the impact of a Kessel right now, even a top-5 type (which Kessel was), it could happen.
Britishbulldog said:I wasn't able to catch a lot of games last year and only have seen a few this year and those have mostly been recent. The 10 or so games I have watched have seen Kessel throwing the puck away, not back checking and not reading the plays well.
My question is: Is this how Kessel played last year or has it only been the last month and a half?
I had found Kessel before seemed to set up plays with great anticipation and seemed to care. Now he is terrible. Is that some of the negativity or was he always not that engaged and I didn't notice it? He has caused goals more than he has scored them in the games I have watched. No matter how talented he is that isn't something that is good on the 1st line or 4th line.