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Official Ottawa Senators Thread

Sucker Punch said:
Our current #15 is tied with our old #15 in goals.

Plus, our current #15 skates, hits, fights, plays defense and kills penalties.
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Your old number #15 is playing for the team that's 1st in the NHL right now. I think he wins.
 
Washington Capitals (13-12-1) at Ottawa Senators (13-11-3)

OTT: PP 19.1% No. 9; PK 80.7% No. 21

WAS: PP 14.7% No. 22; PK 79.8% No. 15

SENATORS

FORWARDS

    Colin Greening-Jason Spezza-Bobby Butler
    Milan Michalek-Nick Foligno-Daniel Alfredsson
    Kaspars Daugavins-Zack Smith-Erik Condra
    Zenon Konopka-Jesse Winchester-Chris Neil

DEFENCE

    Chris Phillips-Sergei Gonchar
    Jared Cowen-Erik Karlsson
    David Rundblad-Brian Lee

GOALIES

    Craig Anderson
    Alex Auld

CAPITALS

FORWARDS

    Alex Ovechkin-Nicklas Backstrom-Troy Brouwer
    Cody Eakin-Marcus Johansson-Mike Knuble
    Jason Chimera-Brooks Laich-Joel Ward
    Matt Hendricks-Mathieu Perreault-Jeff Halpern

DEFENCE

    Dmitry Orlov-Jeff Schultz
    Dennis Wideman-John Erskine
    John Carlson-Karl Alzner

GOALIES

    Tomas Vokoun
    Michal Neuvirth

INJURIES

OTTAWA

    D Filip Kuba (upper body) is day-to-day
    C Peter Regin (shoulder) is out indefinitely

WASHINGTON

    D Roman Hamrik (lower body) is day-to-day.
    D Mike Green (groin soreness) is day-to-day.
    RW Jay Beagle (concussion symptoms) is week-to-week.
    D Tom Poti (groin) is expected to be sidelined all season.
 
Neil vs. Ovechkin.

Neil with a solid hit in the corner. Ovechkin pitchforks him in the gut skating up ice. Neil goes down and gets called for unsportsmanlike, no call on Ovechkin. Ovy says he's not that kind of player.

It looks like he was swinging his stick as part of his skating stride, but I think he knew exactly what he was doing. Just my opinion.

Yahoo article with video link
 
Derk said:
Neil vs. Ovechkin.

Neil with a solid hit in the corner. Ovechkin pitchforks him in the gut skating up ice. Neil goes down and gets called for unsportsmanlike, no call on Ovechkin. Ovy says he's not that kind of player.

It looks like he was swinging his stick as part of his skating stride, but I think he knew exactly what he was doing. Just my opinion.

Yahoo article with video link
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Yup.  One of those "accidentally-on-purpose" spear, but I think he knew what he was doing.  I'm actually impressed Ovi was able to time it perfectly, made it look like it was just his stride, and didn't even look at him.

At the same time, as soon as he feels the stick in his gut, look at Neil look for the ref before he goes down.  It's a spear, and Neil may have been in some discomfort afterwards, but he definitely embellishes.
 
He knew what he was doing.  I also think Neil sold it a little though.

Bob MacKenzie posted the rules on spearing on twitter, though.  By the definition in the rulebook, that should have been 5 and a game for Ovechkin.

I would have been okay, in this situation, with offsetting minors.  Give Ovechkin 2 for spearing, and give Neil 2 for embellishment.

EDIT: Nope, it wasn't Bobby Mac.  Not sure where I read it, but it basically says a two minute minor for spearing is if a player attempts to spear an opponent but doesn't make contact.  5 and a game is for intentionally and successfully spearing a player.

If you believe that Ovechkin did know what he was doing, and that he did make contact with Neil, it would be 5 and a game.
 
I'm no fan of Ovechkin, but I do hate Neil - and he went down pretty quickly there for something that didn't look like it was done too forcefully.

Maybe it got him in a bad spot, but since I have nothing but dislike for Neil, I withdraw any benefit of my doubt.
 
Yeah, I think that's definitely an "accidentally on purpose" type play. The stick movement was definitely part of his skating motion, but, I think he skates up right beside Neil on purpose so that the stick would get him in the gut.
 
Huh.

You know, I've always been under the impression that "spearing" was a term used in reference to the shaft end of the stick rather than the blade end. Apparently, I've been wrong about that for quite some time, and the rules (62.1) specifically reference the blade end only.

Learn something new every day.
 
The Red Polar Bear said:
Huh.

You know, I've always been under the impression that "spearing" was a term used in reference to the shaft end of the stick rather than the blade end. Apparently, I've been wrong about that for quite some time, and the rules (62.1) specifically reference the blade end only.

Learn something new every day.
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I believe that is a 'butt end'.
 
Potvin29 said:
The Red Polar Bear said:
Huh.

You know, I've always been under the impression that "spearing" was a term used in reference to the shaft end of the stick rather than the blade end. Apparently, I've been wrong about that for quite some time, and the rules (62.1) specifically reference the blade end only.

Learn something new every day.
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I believe that is a 'butt end'.
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Yup, Rule 58, Butt-Ending:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26350
 
Busta Reims said:
Potvin29 said:
The Red Polar Bear said:
Huh.

You know, I've always been under the impression that "spearing" was a term used in reference to the shaft end of the stick rather than the blade end. Apparently, I've been wrong about that for quite some time, and the rules (62.1) specifically reference the blade end only.

Learn something new every day.
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I believe that is a 'butt end'.
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Yup, Rule 58, Butt-Ending:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26350
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58.6 Fines and Suspensions - When a major penalty and game misconduct are imposed under this rule, an automatic fine of one hundred dollars ($100) will be imposed.

One HUNDRED Dollars?

Jeeze, how can the players afford these things.
 
It is what it is. Will be interesting to see what Shanahan thinks but I doubt he gets any games. I'll give Ovechkin the benefit of the doubt on this one - it did look somewhat accidental.
Tough game to lose though - we had them on the ropes. Those are big points to be giving away.
 
Ottawa Senators (13-11-3) @ New Jersey Devils (11-14-2)

SPECIAL TEAMS

    OTT: PP 19.1% No. 9; PK 80.7% No. 21
    NJD: PP 13.7%, NO. 25; PK 94.7%, No. 1

SENATORS

FORWARDS

    Colin Greening-Jason Spezza-Bobby Butler
    Milan Michalek-Nick Foligno-Daniel Alfredsson
    Kaspars Daugavins-Zack Smith-Erik Condra
    Zenon Konopka-Jesse Winchester-Chris Neil

DEFENCE

    Chris Phillips-Sergei Gonchar
    Jared Cowen-Erik Karlsson
    David Rundblad-Brian Lee

GOALIES

    Alex Auld
    Craig Anderson

DEVILS

FORWARDS

    Zach Parise-Adam Henrique-Ilya Kovalchuk
    Mattias Tedenby-Patrik Elias-Petr Sykora
    Dainius Zubrus-Ryan Carter-David Clarkson
    Eric Boulton-Tom Sestito-Nick Palmieri

DEFENCE

    Andy Greene-Anton Volchenkov
    Adam Larsson-Bryce Salvador
    Henrik Tallinder-Mark Fayne

GOALIES

    Martin Brodeur
    Johan Hedberg
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Auld starts.
 
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