Guilt Trip
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ODog is reaching with that comment. We all know McD is awesome but Rielly looked like garbage on it. He's just not good defensively.Bender said:
Oilers @ Leafs - Jan. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
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Guilt Trip
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Agree. Marner has been rather ordinary and looked terrible tonight. Trying to force stuff that isn't there. You could be right though in regards to the flu.Hobbes said:
Guilt Trip
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Hey the Habs lost again so all is not lost lol.
Zee said:
?P-hacking? is the name for the phenomenon that occurs when you ask many, many questions of a particular data set (said another way, when you search for correlations in a data set) and then advertise any correlation you find as if it is statistically significant, even when it probably isn?t. P-hacking goes something like this:
1. suppose a correlation (like the correlation between Andersen?s save percentage being low and having 3 days of rest) has a 1% chance of appearing in the data set even though it is just a fluke and there is no real causation between variables
2. Now check 100 different correlations/questions of that sort
It is almost certain if you do that, you will stumble across a correlation where where there is no real causation at work.
The Andersen save percentage/3-days rest thing is likely an instance of that. Other instances are things like:
* the leafs rarely score first
* the leafs rarely lead after 1
* the leafs are better/worse in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd period
* the leafs always lose on Tuesday?s, or when there is a full moon or etc
Basically, broadcasters look through all possible combinations of periods, home/road splits, days of the week looking for an outlier. If we look for all possible statistical anomalies, we are going to find some very unusual things in the data, but they are going to be flukes. They won?t be predictive/meaningful.
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princedpw said:
It was a great move by McDavid but I don't know why Rielly bought the pass so hard. There were a bunch of other Leafs coming back on that play, even if McDavid passes like he indicated it wouldn't have been the best play. Rielly should have just skated back hard covering McDavid the entire time, it was a horrible read on his part.
Strangelove
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As a defenceman in a one-on-one, you control the gap and play the body/chest of the other guy, rather than the puck. Head fakes shouldn't matter. NHL defenceman should never get beaten cleanly in a one-on-one situation. Sure McDavid is good but come on.
It's also worth noting that the play wasn't even the first time during the game that Rielly misplayed a one-on-one leading to a goal against. Something is up with him this year. He seems to have lost all of his confidence.
It's also worth noting that the play wasn't even the first time during the game that Rielly misplayed a one-on-one leading to a goal against. Something is up with him this year. He seems to have lost all of his confidence.
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Strangelove said:
The praise of the McDavid play was off the charts this morning. Colaiacovo on the radio "would ANY defenceman past or present have been able to stop that!?" ;D
I mean I get it was a great play by McDavid, by Rielly also didn't play it well. The combination of the 2 made it a highlite reel goal. It doesn't have to be one or the other "nobody could have stopped that!"
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Come on indeed.
I don't even have a problem with people saying Rielly isn't good defensively, I've been saying it for years. This just simply isn't the battleground to make that argument on.
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CarltonTheBear said:
McDavid being good doesn't explain Rielly getting caught flat-footed in a one-on-one.
It was a good play. But Rielly absolutely should have defended against it much better than he did.
Strangelove said:
Shockingly, you missed my point. McDavid isn't "good". He's currently the best hockey player on the planet.
So when said "sure McDavid is good but come on" what you should have said was "sure McDavid is currently the best hockey player on the planet but come on" it changes how that sounds.
Zee said:
Which is exactly what he did, and then McDavid pulled a move that only he is capable of making because he's currently the best hockey player on the planet.