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leafplasma said:Komarov-Kadri-Kessel
JVR-Bozak-Clarkson
Lupul-Holland-Santorelli
Panik-Winnik-Ashton
I like what you have but I can't see Ashton deserving of a 3rd line spot more than Holland deserving of the promo to the 3rd line. I am not basing this on just this season but from what I have seen from both of them in other seasons. I move Santo to wing on the third and Winnik to centre on the 4th line as he has spent time at that position in his career.
In any case we definitely need to spread out the defensively responsible forwards throughout the lineup. I am convinced it is the only way to do it with the core group of skilled players we have as none of them have any remnants of a 2 way game.
CarltonTheBear said:Leafs lines at practice today:
Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
JVR-Bozak-Clarkson
Winnik-Santorelli-Komarov
Ashton-Holland-Panik-Frattin
Keep in mind, Carlyle is notorious for changing lines at practice only to revert back to normal for a game. But I think in this case we'll probably see these at least to start against Buffalo.
freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
freer said:CarltonTheBear said:Leafs lines at practice today:
Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
JVR-Bozak-Clarkson
Winnik-Santorelli-Komarov
Ashton-Holland-Panik-Frattin
Keep in mind, Carlyle is notorious for changing lines at practice only to revert back to normal for a game. But I think in this case we'll probably see these at least to start against Buffalo.
That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
CarltonTheBear said:freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
As opposed to what it did with JVR and Bozak? That top line will likely always be a mess in their own end. May as well try to load up offensively and keep them away from the other teams top lines.
freer said:CarltonTheBear said:freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
As opposed to what it did with JVR and Bozak? That top line will likely always be a mess in their own end. May as well try to load up offensively and keep them away from the other teams top lines.
JVR and bozak are both used on the PK, which in my opinion means they are not as liable defensively. That is based on RC choices. Just saying.
Potvin29 said:freer said:CarltonTheBear said:freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
As opposed to what it did with JVR and Bozak? That top line will likely always be a mess in their own end. May as well try to load up offensively and keep them away from the other teams top lines.
JVR and bozak are both used on the PK, which in my opinion means they are not as liable defensively. That is based on RC choices. Just saying.
Bozak's only had 5:35 of total PK time this season. He hasn't been relied on for PK minutes thus far this season.
freer said:CarltonTheBear said:Leafs lines at practice today:
Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
JVR-Bozak-Clarkson
Winnik-Santorelli-Komarov
Ashton-Holland-Panik-Frattin
Keep in mind, Carlyle is notorious for changing lines at practice only to revert back to normal for a game. But I think in this case we'll probably see these at least to start against Buffalo.
That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
freer said:Potvin29 said:freer said:CarltonTheBear said:freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
As opposed to what it did with JVR and Bozak? That top line will likely always be a mess in their own end. May as well try to load up offensively and keep them away from the other teams top lines.
JVR and bozak are both used on the PK, which in my opinion means they are not as liable defensively. That is based on RC choices. Just saying.
Bozak's only had 5:35 of total PK time this season. He hasn't been relied on for PK minutes thus far this season.
How much time does Kadri-Lupul-Kessel. Zero.
freer said:How much time does Kadri-Lupul-Kessel. Zero.
CarltonTheBear said:freer said:That first line scares the heck out of me defensively.
As opposed to what it did with JVR and Bozak? That top line will likely always be a mess in their own end. May as well try to load up offensively and keep them away from the other teams top lines.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:See, I think if this is the new top line it's a mistake. Why not put somebody (other than JVR) who kills penalties up there? I liked your suggested lines better.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:See, I think if this is the new top line it's a mistake. Why not put somebody (other than JVR) who kills penalties up there? I liked your suggested lines better.
Nik the Trik said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:See, I think if this is the new top line it's a mistake. Why not put somebody (other than JVR) who kills penalties up there? I liked your suggested lines better.
I think the argument would be that the Leafs don't really have a penalty killer who could play on that line while still being pretty effective at converting the sort of chances that being on a line with two super-talented offensive players will inevitably generate for them. I understand the need to get more possession/defense out of the top line but the Leafs aren't such a powerhouse offensively that they can skate someone like Komarov on the top line either.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Same response to CTB: Komarov may not fix that line's defensive problems, but he has to make it better, by default. It's just not tenable to ice a line that can only function on half the ice.