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Phaneuf to have disciplinary hearing (2 game suspension)

Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.
 
AvroArrow said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.

I just meant initially it appeared that way to me, so I could understand how in heat of the moment in-game a player might think that too - but that on slower replays it didn't look how I initially viewed it.
 
If Phaneuf gets suspended and Leafs are forced to play a few games without him, we'll soon see how they survive and whether Phaneuf is worth $8M+
 
AvroArrow said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.

+1 for me.  He buried him right in the 3 foot-from-the-boards danger zone.
 
Zee said:
If Phaneuf gets suspended and Leafs are forced to play a few games without him, we'll soon see how they survive and whether Phaneuf is worth $8M+

I would hope we're not basing it on a couple games sample size.
 
A Weekend at Bernier's said:
AvroArrow said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.

+1 for me.  He buried him right in the 3 foot-from-the-boards danger zone.

It angers me to no end that a lot of players seem to almost use this as a strategy to protect the puck in the NHL.  3 feet from the boards with their back out to the play. 

I hated it in high school with baseball and basketball as players would stretch the rules in trying to block me knowing I shouldn't hit them or I would get penalized/thrown out.  I sent a few 1st basemen and point guards flying before I settled on just playing hockey.
 
AvroArrow said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.

Also I didn't mean Millar turned his back, I meant it looked like he was going that way at first but then didn't - not that he was facing forward and turned his back into the hit.
 
Potvin29 said:
Also I didn't mean Millar turned his back, I meant it looked like he was going that way at first but then didn't - not that he was facing forward and turned his back into the hit.

That's how it looked to me also. I think when he turned, he didn't have full control of the puck, so he stopped to pick up the puck again and that's when he was hit by Phaneuf. I can see why Phaneuf didn't really think it was going to be a hit on the numbers.
 
I think we have to look at a players record as well. Although Phaneuf can lay devestating hits he has always been a very clean player. I don't think he intended it to be a bad hit at all. No suspension
 
Is seidenberg getting any games for his illegal check to the head that knocked D'Amigo out of the game? No.
Why should Phaneuf.
This is exactly what?s wrong with the League
 
Britishbulldog said:
It angers me to no end that a lot of players seem to almost use this as a strategy to protect the puck in the NHL.  3 feet from the boards with their back out to the play. 

Except their back isn't out "to the play" because they're facing the play because the "play" is the puck. All players in all situations will try to shield the puck from a defender with their body and it's not incumbent on a player to play the puck poorly, which you'd do if you crammed up against the boards in that situation, because the defenseman might want to fill you in.

Honestly, if the roles were reversed here I don't think a suspension would even be a question. It was a stupid play and Phaneuf should know better if he's going to be a leader on this team.
 
Potvin29 said:
AvroArrow said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the slo-mo replay of the Phaneuf hit looks much worse than it did in real time.  In real time it appeared that Millar started going Phaneuf's way and he went for the hit before he turned back, but in slo-mo it looks less like that.  I don't even think Phaneuf fully followed through on it.

Respectfully disagree - I didn't see Millar turn his back at all - it was all numbers the whole time.  Hated that hit from the moment it happened.  I'd give him 2-3 games if it was up to me.

I just meant initially it appeared that way to me, so I could understand how in heat of the moment in-game a player might think that too - but that on slower replays it didn't look how I initially viewed it.

Oh, ok, thanks for the clarification.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
3 games minimum. If I was handing out the suspension Phaneuf would be getting 5. That could of killed the guy.

Agreed, if that player fell awkwardly into the boards, it could have resulted in paralysis, but that could be said for a lot of other hits.  The issue I have is if a player is near the boards, he should expect to get hit and should therefore try to protect himself or prepare for a possible hit.  It seems too many players today are 2 to 3 feet from the boards while facing the boards while trying to protect the puck whereas back in the day the players were completely against the boards and facing the boards while trying to protect the puck which if hit from behind usually resulted in no injury or a less serious injury.  It is as if players today are 'goating' other players to hit them from behind.
 

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