Russian jet carrying hockey team Lokomotiv crashes

[maplesyrup]

Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.

I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance. 

 

[Leafaholic99]

Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.

I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.

I sure hope it wasn't that, something that is highly preventable.

 

[MonikaM]

Lokomotiv official: "At first we didn't want to believe it. But right now there is no hope. The team is gone." - from @dchesnokov

 

[lamajama]

That is horrible, can't believe this happened, hate to say it, but another reason for players to stay away from the KHL, because of the lack of safety with the Airlines in Russia.

I didn't want to say this but I'm glad someone did. I know it may be wrong to simply go by an old reputation but medical issues, contract issues and now safety issues. Why would anyone want to go over there and risk their lives other than the obvious hanging-on players?

 

[Boston Leaf]

this is truly sickening.. what a horrible sad tragedy

 

[Bender]

Ruslan Salei is reported to be alive, awaiting the team in Minsk as per Slava Malamud.

Another Russian reporter, Dmitry Chesnokov (from Puck Daddy) says opposite, that Salei was on the plane.

SlavaMalamud Slava Malamud
by mirtle
It is official now. Belarusian news agencies report that Ruslan Salei was on board the flight.


Jesus Murphy. This reminds me of when practically all the important people in the Polish government suffered a plane crash last summer.

 

[AlmosGirl]

Just read about it.  How absolutely tragic.  My gosh.  My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families of the poor souls lost in this horrible crash.  RIP.

 

[Leafaholic99]

That is horrible, can't believe this happened, hate to say it, but another reason for players to stay away from the KHL, because of the lack of safety with the Airlines in Russia.

I didn't want to say this but I'm glad someone did. I know it may be wrong to simply go by an old reputation but medical issues, contract issues and now safety issues. Why would anyone want to go over there and risk their lives other than the obvious hanging-on players?

yea, I felt bad bringing it up right now, but it will eventually be brought up, safety is a number one concern when it comes to employment and this league just has way too many issues they need to deal with.

I feel sorry for the family and friends of all the players in the KHL, as well as the players who are just trying to make a living. The Russian government needs to step up and do something about it before another tragedy happens.

 

[Kin]

I didn't want to say this but I'm glad someone did. I know it may be wrong to simply go by an old reputation but medical issues, contract issues and now safety issues. Why would anyone want to go over there and risk their lives other than the obvious hanging-on players?

You don't suppose it's a teensy bit premature to try and draw that sort of connection?

 

[Bender]

Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.

I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.

Your suspicions may prove correct:

dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar

 

[Tigger]

I didn't want to say this but I'm glad someone did. I know it may be wrong to simply go by an old reputation but medical issues, contract issues and now safety issues. Why would anyone want to go over there and risk their lives other than the obvious hanging-on players?

You don't suppose it's a teensy bit premature to try and draw that sort of connection?

Yup.

 

[cw]

http://www.championat.com/hockey/news-920041.html

Saw this tweet:
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Survivor hoсkey player Alexandr Galimov hospitalized with burns to 80% of his body #Yaroslavl #ЯК-42 #breakingnews

 

[maplesyrup]

Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.

I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.

Your suspicions may prove correct:

dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar

The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented. 

Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating. 

 

[princedpw]

This saddens me greatly.  Best wishes to the families.

 

[Bullfrog]

I'm stunned.

So many lives lost in an instant. I feel very sad for their families and friends. The loss of Boogard, Rypien, Belak, and now this team will be very hard for many NHLers to take as I'm sure many were friends with several of the players.

 

[Deebo]

James Mirtle says former NHLer Pavol Demtira is confirmed to be among the dead by his agent.

 

[leafsweetie]

Such a tragic year for hockey.  As a spectator I am absolutely heartbroken and stunned.  I can imagine the grief of those families - terrible.

 

[drummond]

This will be hard for KHL too... they should postpone the beginning of the season, do some expansion draft and offer players for Yaroslavl to continue I guess.

 

[MonikaM]

James Mirtle says former NHLer Pavol Demtira is confirmed to be among the dead by his agent.

I just posted that on FB. His agent confirmed it to AP.

This one hurts so badly he just loved wearing the Slovak colours.

 

[maplesyrup]

I can't help but think that for a few seconds, they all knew they were done for... It gives me shivers.