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The Leafs Management vs NHL

Potvin29 said:
Bob McKenzie 1-on-1 with Lamoriello: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/lamoriello-passionate-about-maple-leafs-project~709631

I never really got a chance to go through the full interview, but TLN pointed out that Lou spoke about the whole media not flying with the Leafs thing (bolded part is Lou's answer, not-bolded is TLN's commentary):

"Yes, the charters will be strictly for the staff and the coaches and the players. It certainly has nothing to do with the (media); it has to do with what we're trying to do with the sports medicine program, and what we're doing with the coaching aspect, and what the players will be doing post-game and on the way." (10:35)

This is seriously cool. Team charter flights used to be all about playing cards and eating peanuts and sleeping poorly and wearing Beats by Dre headphones. Now, it looks like Toronto is going to be maximizing their time and resources in transit.

The sports medicine part? I imagine that means that players will be speaking with trainers on how they're feeling after games, getting bumps and bruises and muscle pulls checked out and getting worked on by massage therapists.

As for the coaching side of it, that likely means that some players may meet with coaches on the plane and go over strategies and review game tape. This is a new day and age after all, where WiFi in the air is becoming more common and teams can pull up whatever video they'd like on their laptops and tablets.

I'm sure the Leafs will still get all the rest and relaxation they require, but on long haul flights it certainly makes a lot of sense to make positive and constructive use of that time. It'll be a whole lot easier to accomplish these things without TV guys and writers on board.


Seems like a legitimate explanation.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I never really got a chance to go through the full interview, but TLN pointed out that Lou spoke about the whole media not flying with the Leafs thing (bolded part is Lou's answer, not-bolded is TLN's commentary):

"Yes, the charters will be strictly for the staff and the coaches and the players. It certainly has nothing to do with the (media); it has to do with what we're trying to do with the sports medicine program, and what we're doing with the coaching aspect, and what the players will be doing post-game and on the way." (10:35)

This is seriously cool. Team charter flights used to be all about playing cards and eating peanuts and sleeping poorly and wearing Beats by Dre headphones. Now, it looks like Toronto is going to be maximizing their time and resources in transit.

The sports medicine part? I imagine that means that players will be speaking with trainers on how they're feeling after games, getting bumps and bruises and muscle pulls checked out and getting worked on by massage therapists.

As for the coaching side of it, that likely means that some players may meet with coaches on the plane and go over strategies and review game tape. This is a new day and age after all, where WiFi in the air is becoming more common and teams can pull up whatever video they'd like on their laptops and tablets.

I'm sure the Leafs will still get all the rest and relaxation they require, but on long haul flights it certainly makes a lot of sense to make positive and constructive use of that time. It'll be a whole lot easier to accomplish these things without TV guys and writers on board.


Seems like a legitimate explanation.

Leaving aside my doubts re: the efficacy of expecting players to do homework on the flights, this was never about "Writers" or legitimate media members. This was about team broadcasters.

Seriously, in what way does Joe Bowen not being on these flights make that easier?
 
Nik the Trik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I never really got a chance to go through the full interview, but TLN pointed out that Lou spoke about the whole media not flying with the Leafs thing (bolded part is Lou's answer, not-bolded is TLN's commentary):

"Yes, the charters will be strictly for the staff and the coaches and the players. It certainly has nothing to do with the (media); it has to do with what we're trying to do with the sports medicine program, and what we're doing with the coaching aspect, and what the players will be doing post-game and on the way." (10:35)

This is seriously cool. Team charter flights used to be all about playing cards and eating peanuts and sleeping poorly and wearing Beats by Dre headphones. Now, it looks like Toronto is going to be maximizing their time and resources in transit.

The sports medicine part? I imagine that means that players will be speaking with trainers on how they're feeling after games, getting bumps and bruises and muscle pulls checked out and getting worked on by massage therapists.

As for the coaching side of it, that likely means that some players may meet with coaches on the plane and go over strategies and review game tape. This is a new day and age after all, where WiFi in the air is becoming more common and teams can pull up whatever video they'd like on their laptops and tablets.

I'm sure the Leafs will still get all the rest and relaxation they require, but on long haul flights it certainly makes a lot of sense to make positive and constructive use of that time. It'll be a whole lot easier to accomplish these things without TV guys and writers on board.


Seems like a legitimate explanation.

Leaving aside my doubts re: the efficacy of expecting players to do homework on the flights, this was never about "Writers" or legitimate media members. This was about team broadcasters.

Seriously, in what way does Joe Bowen not being on these flights make that easier?

Kadri won't be able to look at a fat old white man and decide that he doesn't need to work hard because Bowen is eating a burger instead of doing pilates on the plane after a game?  Yeah, I mean I think the whole kicking the broadcasters off the plane thing was just more of Lou's "beards make you a rebel scum" decision.  It had nothing to do with actually creating a benefit.  It was done simply because Lou is old and it's how he has always done it.  Nothing more and nothing less.
 
its not the beards or facial hair, its accountability for all aspects of behavior and it is just a symbol of such. If I am making 2 million plus a year then I don't care if my boss wants facial hair removed. Its nothing more than wearing the proper attire at the proper time, putting a good face on community envolvement and looking good.
If you have ever been out of work what do you do, put on your dirty jeans and beer taco stained tee, hippie sandles and hit the road looking for work? No you get a hair cut and a shave, put on some good cloths and then you hit the road. Lou will be with us for 2 perhaps 3 years until Dubas is groomed (sorry for the pun) and ready for the job. He will probably be more lax on the facial hair thing.
 
Highlander said:
its not the beards or facial hair, its accountability for all aspects of behavior and it is just a symbol of such.

Those words, in that order, are literally meaningless.
 
what order would you prefer me to put them in Nik?  All I am saying is the lack of facial hair is totally symbolic and that this applies to everyone on the team. As all Management are saying is the Team is central, individuals are not.
 
Fun fact, if you look up "symbolic" in your thesaurus, one of the suggestions is "meaningless".
 
Highlander said:
If I am making 2 million plus a year then I don't care if my boss wants facial hair removed.

If I really need the job, then it doesn't matter if it's 2 million or 20,000 a year, there are things I'm willing to do I otherwise wouldn't.

If there are five different people who want to pay me 2 million dollars a year, then my tolerance for stupid rules and being treated like a child would decrease.

Highlander said:
Its nothing more than wearing the proper attire at the proper time, putting a good face on community envolvement and looking good.

There's nothing improper about a beard or a moustache. They don't impede performance and they don't impact popularity. Some of the most popular Leafs in history have had facial hair. Involvement with the community is not negatively affected by someone having facial hair.

All of these things are demonstrably true. What you are saying is demonstrably untrue.
 
Highlander said:
its not the beards or facial hair, its accountability for all aspects of behavior and it is just a symbol of such. If I am making 2 million plus a year then I don't care if my boss wants facial hair removed.

What if there were 29 other places that are willing to pay you that same 2 million and didn't have stupid rules?
 
tough crowd! If they want a beard (and I do have one), then they have the option of not being a Leaf and asking for a trade.  I am sure they would be accomodated. By the way I am in agreement with you but if my boss says stand on my head for 30 minutes a day and I am relatively happy with the rest of my work enviroment and making 2+ a year, I would probably do it.
Most business's are not democracy.
 
David Price a couple of years ago said that he wouldn't sign with the Yankees because they have the same facial hair rule. How would you feel if the Jays had that rule and it was the sole reason for him not signing a long-term deal here?
 
Highlander said:
tough crowd! If they want a beard (and I do have one), then they have the option of not being a Leaf and asking for a trade.

Right. So why risk a player taking that option for something that will have no benefit to the club. 

Highlander said:
I am sure they would be accomodated. By the way I am in agreement with you but if my boss says stand on my head for 30 minutes a day and I am relatively happy with the rest of my work enviroment and making 2+ a year, I would probably do it.

Most people who make two million dollars a year are, I'd guess, confident enough in their skills and worth that they wouldn't take garbage like that. That's because most people who make that money do so because that's what they're worth and they know they'd probably be worth a lot to other employers as well.

I don't make anything near that money but if I was asked to waste my time doing nonsense then I'm pretty confident I could go out and get a job somewhere they respected my time and talents enough not to fritter them away on nonsense.

Highlander said:
Most business's are not democracy.

Effective management, even within an autocracy, would still value individual autonomy over mandated conformity where there's literally no benefit in the latter.
 
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CarltonTheBear said:
David Price a couple of years ago said that he wouldn't sign with the Yankees because they have the same facial hair rule. How would you feel if the Jays had that rule and it was the sole reason for him not signing a long-term deal here?

Or along those lines:

Beards: Russell Martin, David Price, RA Dickey, Edwin Encarnacion, Chris Colabello
Scruffy: Josh Donaldson, Jose Bautista, Mark Buerhle, Justin Smoak
Goofy hair: Marcus Stroman

Does anyone want to make the argument that makes them less of a cohesive team? That it's negatively impacted their popularity in the community in anyway? That these guys are "improper" or that it's negatively affecting any of their play?

If someone said that the Yankees' facial hair policy gave them an edge over the Jays, we'd quite rightfully call that person a lunatic.
 
Wearing suits to games really doesn't affect their abilities to play hockey as a team.

Is that a stupid rule too?
 

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