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Time to End the All-Star Game

John Scott's presence in the game added a level of intrigue to the game not seen in years. Cox is just trying to stand his ground on his original dislike for Scott.
 
Bender said:
John Scott's presence in the game added a level of intrigue to the game not seen in years. Cox is just trying to stand his ground on his original dislike for Scott.

It also made for the best moments of the event. Without him, it would have been another pretty bland ASG experience.
 
Bender said:
John Scott's presence in the game added a level of intrigue to the game not seen in years. Cox is just trying to stand his ground on his original dislike for Scott.

Just for the record, that Cox comment is from before the ASG so it's not in response to the ratings figures.  I couldn't tell if that's what you meant, but just in case.
 
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
John Scott's presence in the game added a level of intrigue to the game not seen in years. Cox is just trying to stand his ground on his original dislike for Scott.

It also made for the best moments of the event. Without him, it would have been another pretty bland ASG experience.

I disagree. While I did enjoy his story and some of his antics were funny, the 3-on-3 is what really made it an enjoyable experience. He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times. I'd still rather have seen a more deserving player on the team.

I thought the story around Jagr was more interesting. And I think there's still enough personality among the real all-stars to make it entertaining.


In fairness, I will say that his participation didn't take anything away from my enjoyment of the event (other than some bad hockey.)
 
Yeah, I found the 3 on 3 plus the 1 million dollar prize seemed to make it a little more competitive.  There were a few times where guys looked like they were ready to play a little more aggressive on the forecheck but held up at the last second.  You could tell the players were more into the game.  Whether that holds up a few years from now will determine whether the games will continue to have some form of purpose in existing. 

I liked it.  The skills competition is going to be awful regardless.  There just isn't much you can do on the ice that hasn't already been done to make it better.  It's more about guys being silly and acting more like guys who like hockey and not just the consummate "we need to compete and play a full 60 minutes" robots they are during the season.

John Scott was nice.  He scored twice.  The second goal it looked like they clearly let him in to shoot but it was all in good fun.  It added a nice human element to the games but it would have been fine without him there.  Hopefully the format draws people in next year. 

If anything that strombo1 guy on twitter stole the show.  He would have been fun to have when Vancouver turfed him.
 
Potvin29 said:
Bender said:
John Scott's presence in the game added a level of intrigue to the game not seen in years. Cox is just trying to stand his ground on his original dislike for Scott.

Just for the record, that Cox comment is from before the ASG so it's not in response to the ratings figures.  I couldn't tell if that's what you meant, but just in case.

Why did he write in past tense? Odd.
 
I also enjoyed the 3 on 3 and think it will make the ASG better for a while. I also noticed that the 3rd game was more intense than the first two. It got a little physical, there were blocked shots, Bishop complained about interference. I will watch that next year for sure.
 
Bender said:
Why did he write in past tense? Odd.

Yeah sorry the embed included the date but I could have made it more clear. That tweet was around the time Scott was traded and most people assumed it meant he wasn't going to be eligible to play.

The general point was that one of Cox's positions on this all along was that the people voting for Scott weren't real fans and weren't going to be watching the game.
 
Bullfrog said:
He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times

I'm at peace with the fact that we're never going to agree on the larger elements here but don't you at least have to admit that the fact that it was interesting that Scott, who everyone had dismissed as having essentially no hockey skills, absolutely performed at a respectable all-star level in the skill contest he took part in?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times

I'm at peace with the fact that we're never going to agree on the larger elements here but don't you at least have to admit that the fact that it was interesting that Scott, who everyone had dismissed as having essentially no hockey skills, absolutely performed at a respectable all-star level in the skill contest he took part in?

Scott has a big-league shot.

Personally, I was interested in how he'd do in the hardest shot competition.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times

I'm at peace with the fact that we're never going to agree on the larger elements here but don't you at least have to admit that the fact that it was interesting that Scott, who everyone had dismissed as having essentially no hockey skills, absolutely performed at a respectable all-star level in the skill contest he took part in?

I can admit that, no problem. Even though he's an awful NHLer, he's probably still one of the best 2000 hockey players on the planet and that does count for something.

I'll also admit that Scott's participation was more enjoyable than I'd anticipated.
 
Dappleganger said:
Scott has a big-league shot.

Personally, I was interested in how he'd do in the hardest shot competition.

I wish the league would do more to promote the skills competitions of each teams. That way we could know the ten fastest skaters in the league, the ten hardest shots, etc. The quantifiable ones (hardest shot, fastest skater, accurate shooting) would be good stuff to talk about during the competition.
 
Bullfrog said:
I wish the league would do more to promote the skills competitions of each teams. That way we could know the ten fastest skaters in the league, the ten hardest shots, etc. The quantifiable ones (hardest shot, fastest skater, accurate shooting) would be good stuff to talk about during the competition.

I still think they should do all of those at the draft combine.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
I wish the league would do more to promote the skills competitions of each teams. That way we could know the ten fastest skaters in the league, the ten hardest shots, etc. The quantifiable ones (hardest shot, fastest skater, accurate shooting) would be good stuff to talk about during the competition.

I still think they should do all of those at the draft combine.

The more data, the better.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times

I'm at peace with the fact that we're never going to agree on the larger elements here but don't you at least have to admit that the fact that it was interesting that Scott, who everyone had dismissed as having essentially no hockey skills, absolutely performed at a respectable all-star level in the skill contest he took part in?

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/mondaymustread-scott-approached-about-movie-1.431618
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
I wish the league would do more to promote the skills competitions of each teams. That way we could know the ten fastest skaters in the league, the ten hardest shots, etc. The quantifiable ones (hardest shot, fastest skater, accurate shooting) would be good stuff to talk about during the competition.

I still think they should do all of those at the draft combine.

You're not interested in who can do the most sit-ups in 60 seconds?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
He offered nothing of interest to the skills competition and watching him play was painful at times

I'm at peace with the fact that we're never going to agree on the larger elements here but don't you at least have to admit that the fact that it was interesting that Scott, who everyone had dismissed as having essentially no hockey skills, absolutely performed at a respectable all-star level in the skill contest he took part in?

That's a pretty low bar - the slapshot I would think is akin to some of those long-ball golf players.  They can't play the game at the highest levels overall but if you put them in this niche environment they can hit it far.  So yes Scott had a hard enough shot, but it's not a situation any player will ever get in game action and he's not good enough to get himself into enough situations to use a slap shot in any event.

Sure I'm nitpicking, but this talk about a movie, etc., at some points I feel like I'm watching a Make-A-Wish event.  Trying to set him up for tap-in goals where the opposing player makes no attempt to stop it.  By the end with him getting raised in the air, even though he seemed to be enjoying it, I couldn't help but think he was being treated like a charity case. 

That being said, it didn't really impact my enjoyment of the game/weekend as much as I thought it might.
 

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