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2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

L K said:
I know the playoff roster isn't the same as the Opening night one, but the Leafs are in such a poor position to make trades right now.
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At this stage of the contention window, Cliff Fletcher rules apply. And at the end of the contention window, trading out the really good pieces that are too old for the next crest of the wave will net very solid future assets.

We can trade roster players too. Everything south of Matthews/Nylander/Knies/Tavares at forward and every defenseman not named Tanev and McCabe are fair game.

I like Cowan and Danford a whole lot (and Minten and Grebyonkin) but if they can pull in a real NHL top-6 or puck-moving defenseman, it's getting done, especially if there is term attached. The mileage on the Laughton and Carlo trades might vary by opinion, but I'd argue the Leafs got more present day value from those picks and prospects than if they had hung on and drafted with them. Getting the depth C and defensive RD gaps filled for low cap hits with term looks like it cost a lot in futures* but it would've cost way more against cap flexibility if we pursued it through UFA. Getting Roy out of the Marner situation was also extremely positive for the circumstances, saving assets that might have otherwise been spent getting a credible centre from the market that basically has none.

* future picks and prospects still multiple years away from NHL production are basically only worthwhile for getting current players
 
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My NHL Draft Manifesto

It's draft season, so I thought I'd put all my mean thoughts about the draft, draft picks and the value of prospects in one place.
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I'm trying to find their post on all the picks that the Leafs have traded away and what ended up happening to them. It paints the picture quite clearly. Vegas and Florida basically don't care about picks and prospects. It's all just fuel for NHL players that fit their game.

Aside from that time Brian Burke emptied his magazine on acquiring Phil Kessel, the Leaf picks that got traded away amounted to very little, and that was mostly because the team play suuuuccckkkkked to the point those assets became truly viable.

edit: Ah, maybe I was thinking of this one:
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Tracking down the Leafs’ traded draft picks

Another trade deadline is approaching, and the Leafs are once again po...
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Bender said:
Who are we trading to get Karlsson? Honestly this really doesn't seem plausible or at minimum very likely.
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Is Karlsson worth more than Benoit and Robertson? Maybe a pick for salary retention?

Very likely, no. Plausible? Perhaps. It was reported that Pittsburgh was looking into moving Karlsson but a lot would depend on whether Karlsson would want to go to Toronto. Stranger things have happened. Brad Marchand got moved for a 2nd-round pick. I just think Karlsson would be a great fit for this Maple Leaf team.
 
Craig Berube 1-on-1
0:00 - 0:30 Intro
0:31 - 2:35 His summer vacation
2:36 - 3:29 - Getting ready for season
3:30 - 5:40 - Becoming a coach
5:41 - 11:48 - Coaching in Philly
11:49 - 13:27 - Montreal fan as a kid
13:28 - 15:17 - Becoming an NHL enforcer
15:18 - 18:44 - Fighting Probert and Kocur in Detroit
18:45 - 20:40 - Getting beat up in Boston
20:41 - 23:17 - Beating up Nick Kypreos
23:18 - 23:48 - Not fighting Probert
23:49 - 26:59 - "Goons"
27:00 - 29:04 - Playing for the Maple Leafs
29:05 - 31:55 - The tough losses
31:56 - 32:43 - Winning Cup in St. Louis
32:44 - 33:40 - Losing in 2000 to Devils
33:41 - 38:52 - Why the Panthers win and what it takes
38:53 - 39:56 - Structure
39:57 - 41:54 - Tocchet on fighting, identity
41:55 - 42:41 - First Nation NHL coaches
42:42 - 43:36 - Bye bye
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Season is kicking back into gear so the podcasts and interviews are coming out; this seems to be the only big Leafs interview this week. Yep, nothing else out there at this time.
 
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www.nytimes.com

Leafs still looking to improve their roster, Stolarz contract, more: Catching up with Brad Treliving

The Maple Leafs' GM says he'll keep "beating the bushes and seeing if there’s anything out there that can help us."
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Another big Leafs interview, with Treliving

Anthony Stolarz, pending UFA in 2026
“Anthony has come in and has been terrific,” Treliving said. “Really, him and (Joseph Woll), you look at any metric you want, I think they were as good a goaltending tandem as there was in the league, and really were a backbone for us.

“We’ve certainly explored some things with Anthony and his representative, and we’d love to find a way to get something done. If there’s something that both sides are comfortable with, we’ll look at it. And we’ve been in those discussions for some time right now. We’ll see what the coming days bring.’’
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New look team and internal expectations:
What do we have here with this version of the Leafs?

“Not to dodge the question — we think we’ve got a good team,” Treliving said, leaning forward to deliver his answer. “But we’ll see. We’ve got to see where everything fits. We like the group. Talking to the players, they’re excited. We all want to rush things and get to the final chapter, (but) you can’t. Chief built a real strong foundation and an identity of how we want to play. But that doesn’t just happen. You’ve got to start that whole process all over again.

“So our focus is just on having a good camp here. We know there’s always expectations around this team. None are any higher than ours. But we have to focus on the things that if you do them correctly give you success. Everybody talks about the process, and there’s a reason for it. We’re not going to get ahead of ourselves.’’
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1965400260848894285

The long and short of it is the lineup will be more flexible and balanced; people will get looks on various lines to try to play as a deeper 4-line team. Looking to improve as a team on secondary forecheck to creating longer OZ time and more opportunities. Players on the bubble or cusp of the NHL (Robertson, Cowan, etc) will gain the trust of the coach if they have a consistent puck hound mentality.

Main line pairings for the forward group, if I'm reading between the lines properly, look to start with
Knies-Matthews
Tavares-Nylander
Joshua-Roy
Lorentz-Laughton
 
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Next you guys are gonna tell me god isn't real?

If JT wants to wear his amulet and he thinks it helps, so be it. All kinds of people believe things that aren't real or aren't proven. to each their own.
 
dappleganger said:
Next you guys are gonna tell me god isn't real?

If JT wants to wear his amulet and he thinks it helps, so be it. All kinds of people believe things that aren't real or aren't proven. to each their own.
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Don’t really care if a rich person blows money on foofah, but you can bet there are kids getting into hockey who want to emulate their favourite player pushing their parents to get them this amulet for recovery and performance.
 
herman said:
Don’t really care if a rich person blows money on foofah, but you can bet there are kids getting into hockey who want to emulate their favourite player pushing their parents to get them this amulet for recovery and performance.
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Sure, but running a fraudulent business isn't quite the same as someone believing in pseudoscience. Is it ok if they buy a similar "EMF blocker" from a more reputable business?

Basically what I'm saying is for some people, pseudoscience seems to have a benefit for them. What's the harm? I kinda see it as similar to a superstition. Western Civilization has leaned heavily into religion. What's the difference?
 
dappleganger said:
Basically what I'm saying is for some people, pseudoscience seems to have a benefit for them. What's the harm? I kinda see it as similar to a superstition. Western Civilization has leaned heavily into religion. What's the difference?
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Probably not the thread for it, but this pseudoscience stuff (and oftentimes religion) is the weapon that those who seek power use to subjugate the masses for their own gain. We need look no further than to the neighbours south of Canada right now, who have used these very tools to steer discourse and policy towards the profit of a few, to the harmful detriment of many. They target education, literature, empathy, critical thinking to create a more compliant population, and point to some external subset of people (sub-people) to lay the blame for the ill-effects of their machinations.
 
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Maple Leafs Training Camp Preview, Part 2: Bubble Players and Dark Horses

In Part 1 of our training camp preview, we focused on the NHL roster and the players fighting for opportunity. Now, we’ll move deeper down the depth chart to examine the Maple Leafs players jockeying to either steal a job or earn the first call-up, as well as a few darkhorses to keep an eye […]
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Easton Cowan

On the complete opposite spectrum of Pezzetta is Easton Cowan, who reportedly now weighs 190 pounds and stands 6’0, which is about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or two taller than when he was drafted.

If Cowan does make the team, it should really only be in a top-six role, as it wouldn’t make sense to put him in a checking role alongside Nic Roy or a fourth-line spot with limited minutes when they can fill a similar role with a Nick Robertson, who has shown he can produce there. The question is whether he could make a case for playing alongside John Tavares in an offensive role; on paper, Tavares would be a great mentor if Cowan is ready for the big leagues.

The Leafs are chock-full of veterans and other skill players who will want to win the spot, like Maccelli and Robertson, so Cowan would have to put on quite the show to seriously enter the conversation. Still, he has enough pedigree and talent to warrant the label “bubble player” heading into camp. We’ll see how he fares.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1965383487562682601

It's a bit of a throwaway line but interesting to see McGran say that "the door is not closed there" in regards to Pacioretty coming back. At his age he's certainly not someone who should be playing 82, or 72, or even 62 games a season but after his playoff run I hoped he would return in a 4th line role that could see him rotate in and out of the press box throughout the season to keep his body fresh.

I wonder if he doesn't sign a contract at the start of the season if he keeps his options open for a midseason signing.
 
Bender said:
Personally I'm still wondering what's going on with Jack Roslovic.
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He's essentially a right shooting Domi: fast, bigger but less physical, shoots a bit more/better, can also play centre.

The problem is the Leafs already have Domi himself as well as several Domi-lites:
  • Matias Maccelli - passy, better def, very perimeter
  • Nick Robertson - shoots from everywhere to his line's detriment, but gives honest effort and has runway to develop
  • Easton Cowan - better overall but an NHL baby with AHL option.
I would not want to manage a roster with 4 of these types of players, let alone 3, but if I had to pick only two or three to keep... the right shooter is at the top of the list.
 
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