2011-2012 NHL Thread

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

Crosby with 4 assists after 2 periods to give him 9 points in 3.667 games back.  21 points in his 12th game of the year.  That would have him at 10th in scoring on the Leafs.

21 points would put him 11th on the Leafs, just behind Gardiner

He is 12th on the Penguins.

Lee Stempniak scored on a goal per game pace after being traded from the Leafs to Phoenix. This proves nothing.

 

[Kin]

Lee Stempniak scored on a goal per game pace after being traded from the Leafs to Phoenix. This proves nothing.

Yup. So for all of you people out there still looking for proof that Sidney Crosby is a fantastic offensive hockey player there's nothing to be found here.

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

Lee Stempniak scored on a goal per game pace after being traded from the Leafs to Phoenix. This proves nothing.

Yup. So for all of you people out there still looking for proof that Sidney Crosby is a fantastic offensive hockey player there's nothing to be found here.

It's small sample size that is all I am saying.

 

[Kin]

It's small sample size that is all I am saying.

That'd be a good point if it showed us anything that was a wild change from the larger sample sizes we have. 21 points in 12 games is a 144 point pace. Last year, in 41 games, Crosby was at a 132 point pace. It's incremental growth from where he was.

 

[Zee]

Crosby has been and continues to be a great player, the only question left if whether he can handle the rougher play.  It's sad that it feels like it's a "watch" until the next big hit and potential injury.

 

[bustaheims]

TSNBobMcKenzie: Evgeny Nabokov's new one-year deal with the NYI is $2.75M. The deal does NOT include a No Move or No Trade clause.

 

[maplesyrup]

TSNBobMcKenzie: Evgeny Nabokov's new one-year deal with the NYI is $2.75M. The deal does NOT include a No Move or No Trade clause.

Why wouldn't Nabokov test the waters? I'd have thought he could have done better... and in a better place.

 

[Peter D.]

TSNBobMcKenzie: Evgeny Nabokov's new one-year deal with the NYI is $2.75M. The deal does NOT include a No Move or No Trade clause.

Why wouldn't Nabokov test the waters? I'd have thought he could have done better... and in a better place.

It sounded like he really wanted to re-sign there and continue to be a part of the progress of Tavares and the team, but I would have thought he'd be seeking at least a 2-year deal. 

Then again, this may give him and the team wiggle room in that if the Islanders don't start off well or the team isn't contending for a playoff spot come next year's trade deadline, they could peddle him off with practically no strings attached to him.

 

[bustaheims]

Why wouldn't Nabokov test the waters? I'd have thought he could have done better... and in a better place.

I'm not so sure he would have. His numbers are barely above average (average Sv% in the league right now is ~.911, Nabokov is at .912) and he's older (turns 37 this summer). He may have been able to find a slightly better team to play for, but, not significantly - most of the real upgrades have their goaltending situation sorted for next season - but, I doubt he gets much more coin or term at his age, with his number and with the threat of a drop in the cap ceiling with the incoming CBA.

 

[maplesyrup]

Why wouldn't Nabokov test the waters? I'd have thought he could have done better... and in a better place.

I'm not so sure he would have. His numbers are barely above average (average Sv% in the league right now is ~.911, Nabokov is at .912) and he's older (turns 37 this summer). He may have been able to find a slightly better team to play for, but, not significantly - most of the real upgrades have their goaltending situation sorted for next season - but, I doubt he gets much more coin or term at his age, with his number and with the threat of a drop in the cap ceiling with the incoming CBA.

I respectfully disagree. I'd say he could have gotten 3 year deal.

 

[Tigger]

I'm surprised he re-signed there but not at the term, +35 deals are kind of risky.

It's smart in one sense, he'd be an attractive deadline trade asset for a cup run somewhere.

 

[bustaheims]

I respectfully disagree. I'd say he could have gotten 3 year deal.

No team worth playing for is going to sign a goalie who is already going to be 37 by the time the contract starts to a 3 year deal, unless that goalie has multiple Vezina trophies to his name - and, even then, it's unlikely.

 

[maplesyrup]

I respectfully disagree. I'd say he could have gotten 3 year deal.

No team worth playing for is going to sign a goalie who is already going to be 37 by the time the contract starts to a 3 year deal, unless that goalie has multiple Vezina trophies to his name - and, even then, it's unlikely.

I'm not so sure. He's have easily gotten two years.... and I just don't get the attraction with the island.

 

[bustaheims]

I'm not so sure. He's have easily gotten two years.... and I just don't get the attraction with the island.

I think 2 years is even questionable. He's right in that age range where goalies often completely lose their game because their reflexes have slowed a fraction of a second too much and, once that happens, it's virtually impossible to recover. I don't see too many teams taking that risk for more than one season. As for the Islanders, they're a good, young team where he won't really have any internal competition for starts - their goalie prospects are at least another year away from pushing for a starting role and they appear to have soured on Montoya a little.

 

[Kin]

I respectfully disagree. I'd say he could have gotten 3 year deal.

Tomas Vokoun at 35 and coming off three seasons where his save percentage was .922, .925 and .926 only got a one year 1.5 million dollar deal from Washington last summer. Theodore, coming off a season with comparable numbers, got two years but for half the money.

Goaltending market isn't what it used to be.

 

[maplesyrup]

I respectfully disagree. I'd say he could have gotten 3 year deal.

Tomas Vokoun at 35 and coming off three seasons where his save percentage was .922, .925 and .926 only got a one year 1.5 million dollar deal from Washington last summer. Theodore, coming off a season with comparable numbers, got two years but for half the money.

Goaltending market isn't what it used to be.

Yeah but at the same time, wasn't everyone just scratching their head when Vokoun got that deal?

 

[Kin]

Yeah but at the same time, wasn't everyone just scratching their head when Vokoun got that deal?

People were surprised at the money, sure. But people aren't throwing tons of money at older goalies these days. Looking at their track records, can you really blame them?

 

[maplesyrup]

Well, at the end of the day, I think the Islanders did very well here. Good for them.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Well, at the end of the day, I think the Islanders did very well here. Good for them.

Nabokov gives the Isles an experienced goaltender along with Montoya.  Truth is, at Nabokov's age, in the hockey world, and with it's trend towards young goalies, there is not a ton of job security (unless one thinks of the Thomas types or the Vokoun types, as mentioned).


Former Islander Brian Rolston, mentioned in an article the other day, on how he sees the Islanders, having replied that they are a team with good talent on the ice, and in the development stage, and he believes it's only a matter of time before the Islanders rise on up. He being a former Islander should know, having played alongside some of the league's top talent -- Tavares, Moulton, Parenteau, Nelson, up & coming Neideritter, Grabner, Streit, etc.


Good news, indeed, then, for Islander fans! 

 

[Derk]

Ugly elbow by Keith on Daniel Sedin last night, one that will probably lead to a suspension.

Of course, the Canucks are up in arms over this (no pun intended).

Interestingly, earlier in the game, Daniel delivered a shoulder to Keith's head. It was suggested that the elbow was retaliation.

We will see what happens.

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