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2013-2014 NHL Thread

bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
@bradyfan590

Flyers just soaring thru Habs - about to be 20-8-4 w/ 15 regulation wins since Nov 2nd. By contrast, Leafs 11-14-5 w/ 4 regulation wins.
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#coachingchanges
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Buffalo - 4-15-1....fire Rolston/hire Nolan...8-11-3...total 12-26-4
Florida - 3-9-4...fire Dineen/hire Horachek...13-12-2...total 16-21-6
Philly - 0-3-0...fire Laviolette/hire Berube...total 23-14-4

Three coaching changes so far.  The Philadelphia one is probably a little unfair to put in the category but both teams who made changes have played noticeably better since their coaching change.
 
L K said:
Three coaching changes so far.  The Philadelphia one is probably a little unfair to put in the category but both teams who made changes have played noticeably better since their coaching change.
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Yeah. The Philly one sticks out a little bit because of how early in the season it was, but, I wonder if maybe they saw a lot of the bad habits from the previous season getting worse - like they have with the Leafs - and decided to be proactive about it. After all, they weren't particularly good last season, either.
 
Andy007 said:
Potvin29 said:
@bradyfan590
Flyers just soaring thru Habs - about to be 20-8-4 w/ 15 regulation wins since Nov 2nd. By contrast, Leafs 11-14-5 w/ 4 regulation wins.
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Hmm I guess coaching changes can work sometimes...
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Improved goaltending (thanks to Stew Mason), a coachIng
change (out with Laviolette; in with Berub?), trading Talbot for
Downie, Giroux getting back on track, GM Holmgren sticking
with the core group of players (not having undertaken
wholesale changes except in some categories, as mentioned), etc.

It all has added up for the feisty Flyers, who have discovered the art of scoring and playing more thoroughly as a team, which translates to w-i-n-n-i-n-g.
 
L K said:
Three coaching changes so far.  The Philadelphia one is probably a little unfair to put in the category but both teams who made changes have played noticeably better since their coaching change.
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Well, that or it's the reverse of the idea of the SI cover jinx. If there's widespread parity throughout the league and the teams who are going to fire their coaches are the ones in terrible stretches then a regression towards the mean should be expected at some point afterwards.
 
I have to give the Flyers credit because I thought placing Berube as the coach made no sense whatsoever.  I'd go as far as to say that I thought it was completely foolish. 

They're flying under him.
 
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/dougie-hamilton-takes-nhl-dumbest-penalty-season-video-132811289--nhl.html

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSfMa55b4M[/youtube]
 
I appreciate that it's something that Hamilton should know not to do but it's not really intuitive, is it? I mean, if the penalty is over and he's making the motion to come onto the ice what purpose does the rule really serve?
 
Potvin29 said:
Lockout shmockout.  Panthers asking for public money: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78832242/
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The thing that I find strange about the CBA is the fact that the salary cap floor is pinned so tightly (and not in percentage terms) to league revenues.  It is sort of obviously that this doesn't work when the revenues brought in in different markets diverge so widely.

If the cap floor was $35-40 million, these weak teams would be in less trouble (though obviously at a larger competitive disadvantage).
 
Nik the Trik said:
Good article on Deadspin about just how bogus the Panthers' claims are:

http://deadspin.com/the-florida-panthers-want-70-million-in-taxpayer-money-1498613317
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This came up last year, and the premise of that article was pretty much debunked. The company that operates the arena is turning a profit, yes, but the organization as a whole is not. The team's expenses are not included in AOC's balance sheet, and they vastly outweigh any profits that are being seen by the arena itself.
 
bustaheims said:
This came up last year, and the premise of that article was pretty much debunked. The company that operates the arena is turning a profit, yes, but the organization as a whole is not. The team's expenses are not included in AOC's balance sheet, and they vastly outweigh any profits that are being seen by the arena itself.
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Well, leaving aside that's one point in the article, that premise was not "debunked" to everyone's level of satisfaction. I'd point you to the Edmonton Journal article linked to in the Deadspin piece.

Regardless, why a very smart businessman would pay 250 million dollars for a business that loses 20 million dollars a year is certainly a head scratcher.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
This came up last year, and the premise of that article was pretty much debunked. The company that operates the arena is turning a profit, yes, but the organization as a whole is not. The team's expenses are not included in AOC's balance sheet, and they vastly outweigh any profits that are being seen by the arena itself.
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Well, leaving aside that's one point in the article, that premise was not "debunked" to everyone's level of satisfaction. I'd point you to the Edmonton Journal article linked to in the Deadspin piece.
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The article from the Edmonton Journal they link to is the very one that was debunked.

More on that here: http://www.defendingbigd.com/2012/11/16/3654718/2012-nhl-lockout-Florida-panthers-profits-arena-losses-money-revenue

Nik the Trik said:
Regardless, why a very smart businessman would pay 250 million dollars for a business that loses 20 million dollars a year is certainly a head scratcher.
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Well, that's something that can be related to most sports franchises. In general, they're poor investments, and they're more about ego and having something flashy to show off rather than making money - and, in some cases, the operating losses work in their favour when it comes to taxes.
 
bustaheims said:
Well, that's something that can be related to most sports franchises. In general, they're poor investments, and they're more about ego and having something flashy to show off rather than making money - and, in some cases, the operating losses work in their favour when it comes to taxes.
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Well, not really. I'd say Forbes' estimates, and the way franchise values have skyrocketed in the last 20 years, would point to a pretty healthy percentage of big 4 sports franchises as being pretty solid investments.
 
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