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OldTimeHockey said:TML fan said:OldTimeHockey said:bustaheims said:OldTimeHockey said:That's like saying "if Luongo throws the puck the other way around the boards the puck doesn't go in." Yeah you got me there. Any chance you can show stats that prove that Luongo's mishandling of the puck shows that he wasn't fault?
I don't need stats, nor do I need your ridiculous equivalencies. Watch the replay again and really watch Luongo. Watch how far he turns away from the play. When the puck hits his skate, he's turned all the way around so that he's facing the boards on the other side of the ice. I've watched enough hockey to have seen similar plays hundreds of times, and 99.9% of the time when the puck is in the corner of the defensive zone when his team has the puck and the other team is clearing the zone (in this case, they're going for a line change since the Habs are killing a penalty), the goalie positions himself so that A) he can see the play and B) far enough in the net that the puck isn't going to bounce off him and into the net. Luongo did neither of those things here. He made a small mistake that, yes, most of the time wouldn't cost him, but in rare cases like this, it will. He shares some of the blame for taking a poor route back into his net and turning to the other side of the ice.
I've watched the replay numerous times. Luongo looks over his right shoulder as that's the correct play in that instance. You see, as a goalie you are taught to look to where the puck is going, not where it's been in regards to watching the play behind the net. The dman was taking the puck to the right side of the net. That's where the goalie looks.
So you can continue calling me ridiculous but let's be honest. You know squat about playing goalie and this asinine conversation proves it.
I don't know, it seems to me that if Luongo was watching where the puck was and not where it was going, the puck wouldn't have gone in.
It's seems counter intuitive to watch for something that may never arrive.
In slow motion sure. It's easy to say that he should of continued looking over his left shoulder. But in reality, and in real time, at some point he had to look from his left shoulder to his right shoulder and at that point he would of lost sight of the puck. It just happens that in that instance, Hamhuis lost control and it ended up in the net. As much as we goalies would love to have a head on a 360 degree swivel, it hasn't been figured out just yet so sometimes we have to put faith in our dman not screwing it up.
In my opinion, it was just a matter of everything coming together at the same time that resulted in the goal.
Snoop Lion said:Apparently Dan Boyle was taken off on a stretcher tonight and sent to hospital. Hit from behind by Maxim Lapierre.
Nik the Trik said:Snoop Lion said:Apparently Dan Boyle was taken off on a stretcher tonight and sent to hospital. Hit from behind by Maxim Lapierre.
Here's a link with some video for those interested. Probably going to result in a suspension:
http://deadspin.com/maxim-lapierre-hits-dan-boyle-from-behind-seriously-in-1446027269
Nik the Trik said:Sid Crosby with another 3 points tonight, now at 12 pts in 6 games. I mean...if he stays healthy...could he hit 150? 140?
Omallley said:Nik the Trik said:Sid Crosby with another 3 points tonight, now at 12 pts in 6 games. I mean...if he stays healthy...could he hit 150? 140?
He hasn't had a healthy season in a while, but seriously, if he could put one together, what's stopping him from hitting north of 130 points? He certainly has the talent.
Potvin29 said:Needs the other angle, can't tell where the end of his blade hits.
Potvin29 said:Needs the other angle, can't tell where the end of his blade hits.
Potvin29 said:It's black on black, I don't know whether his original swipe could have hit him or not. The important area is obscured and pixelated in that .gif and can't be stopped to see.
EDIT: And from a quick search online, it seems he was bleeding after it too.
Frank E said:Potvin29 said:It's black on black, I don't know whether his original swipe could have hit him or not. The important area is obscured and pixelated in that .gif and can't be stopped to see.
EDIT: And from a quick search online, it seems he was bleeding after it too.
Why can't I just draw a definitive conclusion from a gif?
Potvin29 said:It's black on black, I don't know whether his original swipe could have hit him or not. The important area is obscured and pixelated in that .gif and can't be stopped to see.
EDIT: And from a quick search online, it seems he was bleeding after it too.
Zee said:Potvin29 said:It's black on black, I don't know whether his original swipe could have hit him or not. The important area is obscured and pixelated in that .gif and can't be stopped to see.
EDIT: And from a quick search online, it seems he was bleeding after it too.
I highly doubt he was bleeding, or it would have been more than 2 minute penalty. Also Crosby's not the type of player who wouldn't point out blood to a ref.
With the score tied, 2-2, early in the third period, Edmonton defenseman Andrew Ference smacked him in the face with his stick.
Crosby ended up with a nasty gash on the right side of his tongue, presumably where Ference's stick made contact.
"I have a mouthguard, so it's pretty hard to really bite it like that," Crosby said.
Whatever the cause, it was hard to miss the way Crosby was bleeding from the mouth, but the officials apparently did, because Ference was sent to the penalty box for just two minutes, rather than being assessed a double-minor.
"He wanted four minutes, for sure," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "I was actually hoping there was blood."
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/penguins/crosby-sparks-penguins-over-oilers-3-2-707706/#ixzz2huOi9A9a
Potvin29 said:Zee said:Potvin29 said:It's black on black, I don't know whether his original swipe could have hit him or not. The important area is obscured and pixelated in that .gif and can't be stopped to see.
EDIT: And from a quick search online, it seems he was bleeding after it too.
I highly doubt he was bleeding, or it would have been more than 2 minute penalty. Also Crosby's not the type of player who wouldn't point out blood to a ref.
Pens forums have posters stating he was on the bench with blood around his mouth. Haven't seen the video so have to go by what I read there.
EDIT: Pittsburgh paper has something about it:
With the score tied, 2-2, early in the third period, Edmonton defenseman Andrew Ference smacked him in the face with his stick.
Crosby ended up with a nasty gash on the right side of his tongue, presumably where Ference's stick made contact.
"I have a mouthguard, so it's pretty hard to really bite it like that," Crosby said.
Whatever the cause, it was hard to miss the way Crosby was bleeding from the mouth, but the officials apparently did, because Ference was sent to the penalty box for just two minutes, rather than being assessed a double-minor.
"He wanted four minutes, for sure," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "I was actually hoping there was blood."
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/penguins/crosby-sparks-penguins-over-oilers-3-2-707706/#ixzz2huOi9A9a