2015 NHL Entry Draft

[Al14]

How can the Flyers take on that much salary?

Yeah fair enough.

What if Kadri is dropped and it's modified? Still not likely?

Well, the problem with that is that if you think of trades as sort of like a business ledger where you sort of have to work out an equal sense of value and a roughly equal cap figure for them to make sense Lecavalier is an interesting piece because he adds very little in terms of value but can be used to balance salaries.

Adding both Kessel and Phaneuf adds so much cap dollars that in order to make those numbers work Philly would have to add players balance it out cap wise who do have real value in which case you probably couldn't get the returns you want in terms of assets.

Right. So really something like Kessel for the 8th, Couturier and Lecavalier is about all that would be likely/possible...

Does anyone really think Kessel is a Philadelphia Flyer type player?

I just can't see him as a Flyer myself!

 

[Redleaf]

So, if I were a betting man, I'd wager the Leafs pick up either Noah Hanifin or Dylan Strome with their #4 selection.

Besides looking at their Jr. stats, what do we know about these guys?

Are there any comparisons being made? Has anyone seen both players live and which one should the Leafs select (if they are both still available when the Leafs hit the podium) Or will Arizona trade down to give the Leafs the option?

 

[Al14]

So, if I were a betting man, I'd wager the Leafs pick up either Noah Hanifin or Dylan Strome with their #4 selection.

Besides looking at their Jr. stats, what do we know about these guys?

Are there any comparisons being made? Has anyone seen both players live and which one should the Leafs select (if they are both still available when the Leafs hit the podium) Or will Arizona trade down to give the Leafs the option?

Why would Arizona trade down?  At this point, they need to just take the best player available ahead of us. JMHO.

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

What's the present situation with where Nashville's first rounder is likely to be?  I thought I read before that Montreal and/or Minnesota going out means it moves up a position or did I get that wrong?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

What's the present situation with where Nashville's first rounder is likely to be?  I thought I read before that Montreal and/or Minnesota going out means it moves up a position or did I get that wrong?

Reposting a LK post:

30 - Anaheim (Cup Winner)
29 - Tampa (Cup Loser)
28 - Chicago (WCF Loser)
27 - Washington (ECF Loser)
26 - New York (best record of non conference finals division winners)
25 - Montreal (next best record of remaining division winners)
24 - St. Louis (next best record of remaining division winners)
23 - Nashville (next best record)
*The ECF/WCF and SCF winners were selected strictly based on best regular season record and are not a prediction of the final results.

This would be assuming Anaheim beats Calgary, Washington finishes off New York (up 3-1), Tampa finishes off Montreal (up 3-0).

If Montreal pulls off the down 3-0 comeback however, Nashville wouldn't move draft positions as Tampa finished ahead of them by point totals and would still draft after Nashville.  It would just change the draft order to Tampa drafting 24th.

Coming into round 2, Nashville was scheduled to draft 25th but with Chicago/Minnesota both being behind the Predators in the regular season standings, it automatically drops the Preds down a slot to 24th regardless of who wins (it will be Chicago).

Basically, right now we're down to 23rd (if Washington wins tonight) or 24th (if New York wins tonight).

 

[Redleaf]

What's the present situation with where Nashville's first rounder is likely to be?  I thought I read before that Montreal and/or Minnesota going out means it moves up a position or did I get that wrong?

Reposting a LK post:

30 - Anaheim (Cup Winner)
29 - Tampa (Cup Loser)
28 - Chicago (WCF Loser)
27 - Washington (ECF Loser)
26 - New York (best record of non conference finals division winners)
25 - Montreal (next best record of remaining division winners)
24 - St. Louis (next best record of remaining division winners)
23 - Nashville (next best record)
*The ECF/WCF and SCF winners were selected strictly based on best regular season record and are not a prediction of the final results.

This would be assuming Anaheim beats Calgary, Washington finishes off New York (up 3-1), Tampa finishes off Montreal (up 3-0).

If Montreal pulls off the down 3-0 comeback however, Nashville wouldn't move draft positions as Tampa finished ahead of them by point totals and would still draft after Nashville.  It would just change the draft order to Tampa drafting 24th.

Coming into round 2, Nashville was scheduled to draft 25th but with Chicago/Minnesota both being behind the Predators in the regular season standings, it automatically drops the Preds down a slot to 24th regardless of who wins (it will be Chicago).

Basically, right now we're down to 23rd (if Washington wins tonight) or 24th (if New York wins tonight).

Go Caps!

 

[LuncheonMeat]

What's the present situation with where Nashville's first rounder is likely to be?  I thought I read before that Montreal and/or Minnesota going out means it moves up a position or did I get that wrong?

Reposting a LK post:

30 - Anaheim (Cup Winner)
29 - Tampa (Cup Loser)
28 - Chicago (WCF Loser)
27 - Washington (ECF Loser)
26 - New York (best record of non conference finals division winners)
25 - Montreal (next best record of remaining division winners)
24 - St. Louis (next best record of remaining division winners)
23 - Nashville (next best record)
*The ECF/WCF and SCF winners were selected strictly based on best regular season record and are not a prediction of the final results.

This would be assuming Anaheim beats Calgary, Washington finishes off New York (up 3-1), Tampa finishes off Montreal (up 3-0).

If Montreal pulls off the down 3-0 comeback however, Nashville wouldn't move draft positions as Tampa finished ahead of them by point totals and would still draft after Nashville.  It would just change the draft order to Tampa drafting 24th.

Coming into round 2, Nashville was scheduled to draft 25th but with Chicago/Minnesota both being behind the Predators in the regular season standings, it automatically drops the Preds down a slot to 24th regardless of who wins (it will be Chicago).

Basically, right now we're down to 23rd (if Washington wins tonight) or 24th (if New York wins tonight).

Go Caps!

This may just be the biggest game of Ovechkin's career.  Should be a good one, and it's nice to have something on the line even if it's just moving up one spot in the draft.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So 24th it is!

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

So 24th it is!

I'm calling it now, whoever is picked 23 will be a first ballot hall of famer.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So 24th it is!

I'm calling it now, whoever is picked 23 will be a first ballot hall of famer.

I was going to write that too but I just figured that it was assumed.

 

[Kin]

There aren't many places that have done mock drafts for all 30 picks yet but of the ones that have a few have Daniel Sprong going with the #24 pick.

 

[rdowdall]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

 

[Kin]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

Well, as it stands now these are the possible scenarios where that could go down:

Columbus could offer picks no. 34 and 38, Buffalo could offer 31 and 51, The Devils could offer 36 and 41, Ottawa could offer 42 and 48, Edmonton could offer 33 and 57.

I would be interested by the Columbus and New Jersey offers. Less so in the others. Also, it would depend on who was available at #24.

 

[bustaheims]

I would be interested by the Columbus and New Jersey offers. Less so in the others. Also, it would depend on who was available at #24.

Same. If the Leafs were to trade down from 24 - which I think is a reasonable possibility and something to be considered - I think they'd be better off doing so with a team with one of the few picks behind them in the 1st round instead of trading out of it entirely. They can probably pick up a late 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process.

 

[Kin]

I would be interested by the Columbus and New Jersey offers. Less so in the others. Also, it would depend on who was available at #24.

Same. If the Leafs were to trade down from 24 - which I think is a reasonable possibility and something to be considered - I think they'd be better off doing so with a team with one of the few picks behind them in the 1st round instead of trading out of it entirely. They can probably pick up a late 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process.

Maybe. Philly has Tampa's pick and #70. Tampa has the Rangers pick and #44 and #64. Arizona has the Blackhawks pick and #63.

Those seem to be the only options there. Otherwise you're either talking about a team trading a second or third to move up only a spot or two, which seems unlikely, or the Leafs moving down to pick up a late third which seems like a bad deal on the Leafs' end.

 

[KadriFan]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

Not with our scouts.  I would be trying to trade up....

 

[rdowdall]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

Not with our scouts.  I would be trying to trade up....

I don't agree.  I agree with the "Hunter and Dubas know the OHL really well, so get them as many picks as possible in the next couple of years" sentiment.

 

[losveratos]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

Not with our scouts.  I would be trying to trade up....

I don't agree.  I agree with the "Hunter and Dubas know the OHL really well, so get them as many picks as possible in the next couple of years" sentiment.

I only agree with sentiments that can be spoken with one breath

 

[KadriFan]

If a trade happens where the Leafs could pick up 2 seconds for the #24 pick, should they do it?

Not with our scouts.  I would be trying to trade up....

I don't agree.  I agree with the "Hunter and Dubas know the OHL really well, so get them as many picks as possible in the next couple of years" sentiment.

I only agree with sentiments that can be spoken with one breath

We need a stud center and defenseman.  Could get both this year if we trade up.  We can always dump the pylon and a few others for second rounders and hope the scouts can find winners. 

 

[bustaheims]

Those seem to be the only options there. Otherwise you're either talking about a team trading a second or third to move up only a spot or two, which seems unlikely, or the Leafs moving down to pick up a late third which seems like a bad deal on the Leafs' end.

A 2nd or 3rd round pick has generally been the price to move up a couple spots, though, and if a team really likes one prospect more than everyone else available, it's not uncommon to see moves like that. As for the Leafs end of things, if they don't feel that way about a particular prospect or if they feel they can still get the guy they want a couple slots later, then picking up any other asset in a deal that works in their favour.