2016 Summer Housekeeping Thread
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Coco-puffs
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Zee said:
Well, those that were interested in this year's development camp that didn't solely focus on Matthews and Marner noticed Moore played very well.
And there is no way a UFA college player that was Top 10 in scoring is not going to get bonuses from NHL teams. Jimmy Vesey will get the max, Schedule A and Schedule B.
Kin
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Dave Lozo ranked all thirty-one NHL teams' off-seasons:
https://sports.vice.com/ca/article/which-nhl-team-had-the-best-offseason
I think he nailed it.
https://sports.vice.com/ca/article/which-nhl-team-had-the-best-offseason
I think he nailed it.
Nik the Trik said:
You know, I've seen that thought mentioned here as well, but to me the Polak and Martin moves show that the Leafs don't want to tank another year. I would imagine that they believe those are two players who can help the Leafs win hockey games. Then there's the fact that none of none of the older core players were dealt (although hard to say if they were just unsuccessful in that attempt). And of course "upgrading" the goaltending seems to suggest they want to win more games too.
I don't necessarily think that they're going into the season with a strict goal of making the playoffs, but I also just don't really get the tanky-vibe that we had last season.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
I think the issue there is that there's always a range we're talking about. All teams that "tank" aren't the 14-15 Sabres. I don't look at what they did as being conducive to another dead last finish but I don't look at them as being real serious efforts at jumping in the standings much either.
GhostofPotvin29
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CarltonTheBear said:
That doesn't really line up with what Shanahan's said though:
So if he was coming in as a 5 or 6 a couple of years ago and now he's more of a depth guy then it sounds like he's at least a 6 or a 7 on the depth chart. Not really someone I think they would be counting on to move the dial on the win column either way.
Potvin29 said:
Admittedly, I never saw that quote before. And while the first part of it doesn't really make sense (he was never a 5/6 defenceman on the Leafs the past 2 seasons), I'd be pretty happy if he was used as more of a spare part as the quote suggests.
Although that's a lot of money to pay for a 6/7 guy (*he said through a heavy cough*).
TLN with an article examining what Martin Marincin's next contract might look like:
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/7/29/what-will-martin-marincin-s-next-contract-be
Based on the comparables, it seems likely that he'll come in at around the $1mil mark.
As you'd see in the article though, there aren't really very many comparable players. Guys who score as little as Marincin does don't generally stay in the league very often. And they certainly don't generally get paid much in their contracts. I've brought this up before but I'd be perfectly fine trying to see him to a 4-year deal at something like $1.5mil. Even with the recent rise of analytical-friendly GMs in the league, guys like Marincin still aren't really getting paid what they're worth. It'd be smart to get him locked in now before that might change.
It also touches on the fact though that it's almost guaranteed that Marincin or Carrick will be exposed in the upcoming expansion draft. That'll be a bummer.
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/7/29/what-will-martin-marincin-s-next-contract-be
Based on the comparables, it seems likely that he'll come in at around the $1mil mark.
As you'd see in the article though, there aren't really very many comparable players. Guys who score as little as Marincin does don't generally stay in the league very often. And they certainly don't generally get paid much in their contracts. I've brought this up before but I'd be perfectly fine trying to see him to a 4-year deal at something like $1.5mil. Even with the recent rise of analytical-friendly GMs in the league, guys like Marincin still aren't really getting paid what they're worth. It'd be smart to get him locked in now before that might change.
It also touches on the fact though that it's almost guaranteed that Marincin or Carrick will be exposed in the upcoming expansion draft. That'll be a bummer.
bustaheims
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I feel like there's a good chance they're hoping to pull a Winnik with Polak.
bustaheims said:
While I know this sounds strange coming from someone who didn't want the deal in the first place, I'm a little surprised it wasn't a 2-year contract. I think the extra year on Winnik's deal probably made him a little more attractive to Washington, and if they couldn't trade him then he might have been good expansion draft fodder. Who knows, Vegas might have found him more appealing than say Marincin.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
True, but with the cap uncertainty right now, I can see the thinking being that teams wouldn't be as interested in adding an extra year of commitment to a bottom of the lineup defenceman they they would with a forward like Winnik.
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Fair. Though, to be honest, I'm less concerned about pushing Corrado or Marincin down the depth chart a little, as I don't think either of them will contribute much more than what we saw from them last season, or that they'd be hard to replace.