crazyperfectdevil
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i like how desperate this makes tampa for when they play boston
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crazyperfectdevil said:i like how desperate this makes tampa for when they play boston
L K said:Remaining games:
@Columbus, New Jersey, @Buffalo, Florida, @Nashville, @Detroit, @Buffalo, Washington, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Columbus
Two games in Buffalo where they always seem to find a way to struggle. Four good opponent games against Columbus (x2), Pittsburgh and Washington. Two back to backs with somewhat shorter travel (@Columbus/New Jersey and @Buffalo/Washington).
disco said:The Bubble going into Wednesday, March 22nd. Stanley Cup Playoffs begin April 12th.
GR PTS Current Matchup
Boston 9 82 (3rd Atlantic vs Ottawa)
Toronto 11 81 (Wildcard vs Washington)
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NY Isles 11 78 (shame)
Tampa 10 77 (more shame)
Tuesday's action: Bruins and Bolts both lose
Britishbulldog said:disco said:The Bubble going into Wednesday, March 22nd. Stanley Cup Playoffs begin April 12th.
GR PTS Current Matchup
Boston 9 82 (3rd Atlantic vs Ottawa)
Toronto 11 81 (Wildcard vs Washington)
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NY Isles 11 78 (shame)
Tampa 10 77 (more shame)
Tuesday's action: Bruins and Bolts both lose
I actually wouldn't mind those matchups for this year. Boston and Ottawa can beat each other up and our young core gets trained by the NHL best to show them what it takes to win ....like NYI and Edmonton in 1983. Gretzky didn't even score a goal after smashing scoring records that season and NYI swept them in 4 straight!
The next year though.....
disco said:Britishbulldog said:r.
disco said:The Bubble going into Wednesday, March 22nd. Stanley Cup Playoffs begin April 12th.
GR PTS Current Matchup
Boston 9 82 (3rd Atlantic vs Ottawa)
Toronto 11 81 (Wildcard vs Washington)
-------------------
NY Isles 11 78 (shame)
Tampa 10 77 (more shame)
Tuesday's action: Bruins and Bolts both lose
I actually wouldn't mind those matchups for this year. Boston and Ottawa can beat each other up and our young core gets trained by the NHL best to show them what it takes to win ....like NYI and Edmonton in 1983. Gretzky didn't even score a goal after smashing scoring records that season and NYI swept them in 4 straight!
The next year though.....
Good point! Imagine going into that sea of red in Washington? Another need-to-win-it-all year for the Caps... talk about a baptism of fire! Man, I can't wait for the first round. The first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs is some of the best hockey on the planet.
disco said:Reminds of a lot going in 1993. Detroit was on the rise but not yet the Cup-winning powerhouse. Everyone was just excited that the Leafs were in again after the 80's futility. Gilmour, Fletcher, Burns. Beginning of a new era of competence after years of Ballard ineptness. I was 13. I just caught the tail end of the 80's, not the full brunt of it. Then they went on that magical run. 21 games in 41 nights. That run and next the next one aged Gilmour 10 years.
I also see some parallels with the Chicago Blackhawks in 2009. Not only with personnel and the way they came by it, but the Hawks were in for the first time in the Toews-Kane era and when on their first run. That Havlat overtime goal was the beginning of a new era for them after years of Bob Pulford incompetence. Nine years and three Cups later...
Nik the Trik said:These seem like incredibly flimsy parallels to the '93 team. Nobody in '93 was just excited that the Leafs were in the playoffs again, making the playoffs in those days wasn't a big deal. The Leafs in '93 had made the playoffs two years prior and in 4 of the last 7 years.
What was exciting about '93 was the Leafs unexpectedly jumping up into legitimate contender range.They may have been nominally underdogs vs. the Red Wings but there was only a four point gap between the teams.
Zee said:You can spin those stats either way. The Leafs of the late 80s making the playoffs were a joke, they were bad teams, making the playoffs with 52 and 57 points, and 70 another season. Leafs then missed the playoffs 3 of the next 4 seasons before that Burns led 92/93 squad. Leafs had seasons of 57 and 67 points before Burns, and pumped it all the way up to 99 points under Burns. Burns coming in signaled a new era, a team that actually played with structure and was considered a legitimate playoff team.
Nik the Trik said:Zee said:You can spin those stats either way. The Leafs of the late 80s making the playoffs were a joke, they were bad teams, making the playoffs with 52 and 57 points, and 70 another season. Leafs then missed the playoffs 3 of the next 4 seasons before that Burns led 92/93 squad. Leafs had seasons of 57 and 67 points before Burns, and pumped it all the way up to 99 points under Burns. Burns coming in signaled a new era, a team that actually played with structure and was considered a legitimate playoff team.
I'm not sure how that's substantially different than what I said. It's not like 92-93 represented a point where only really good teams made the playoffs. What was exciting about the 92-93 Leafs wasn't just that they were "in the playoffs" it was that they looked able to actually make some noise in the playoffs and, either way, the teams aren't even superficially similar.
And while Burns certainly did a very good job with the team the transformation really took hold the year before when the Gilmour trade got made. When the Leafs made the trade they were 10-26-5. They finished the year 20-17-2 with Gilmour which is a 90 point pace.
Zee said:Sure this current Leafs team bears no resemblance to the team of the early 90s given the dependence on the rookies in the current lineup, but the similarities of crap team for a long time to good team are evident.
Nik the Trik said:Zee said:Sure this current Leafs team bears no resemblance to the team of the early 90s given the dependence on the rookies in the current lineup, but the similarities of crap team for a long time to good team are evident.
Short of simple truths about point totals I'm not sure what those similarities are. Especially considering the fairly wide gap between how good the current team is and how good the 92-93 Leafs were. As happy as we all are that the playoffs are a real possibility for this team there are some underlying truths that can't really be ignored like a relatively unimpressive goal differential and the reality that even if they make the playoffs they may do so without a point total significantly or at all higher than some of those post-lockout Sundin teams that didn't make the playoffs had.