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2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

Yup. We'll just have to agree to disagree about my wacky concept of a subconscious mind. Where do I get these things, amirite?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Nobody is happier than I am to have it feel like the Leafs are doing smart things again but I have to confess I'm a little puzzled about how exactly something like that would work with regards to an inexact science like scouting. Maybe this is just my lack of experience with the subject matter coming through but are there objectively good and objectively bad scouting reports? And isn't amateur scouting less about the quality of a report and an ability to sort of try and project a player a few years out? How could you look at a bunch of anonymous reports and figure that out?

It seems to me like any such effort would result less in getting the "best" applicants by any actual metric and more about getting the ones that most fit in with what an organization is looking for. Which isn't a bad thing of course but you do sort of wonder if some of the better picks made over the years weren't a result of against the grain thinking.

I?ve been pondering this quite a bit and I think it?s a very good point about how to objectively evaluate what is sort of also an art.

Objectively, I think the scouting reports can be evaluated on which elements of a player are focused on, which paints a picture of how the scout views the game and what components are valued, and whether it is a gestalt outlook or a very fixated point of view.

Dubas has said (or it has been said of him) that he values differing (but well substantiated) views, so he appears to have found Needham because her report exhibited something different from the other candidates. She?s still deeply embedded in hockey (and likely has to be more passionate about the game to still be in it considering how women are gradually forced out of athletics), but clearly grew up in a different hockey soil than the men would have.

What?s funny/sad was how much water carrying there was for Dart Guy getting a scouting job compared to how people were asking for Hayley Wickenheiser?s bona fides to coach hockey development.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Yup. We'll just have to agree to disagree about my wacky concept of a subconscious mind. Where do I get these things, amirite?

You be cray :)

I love hockey season but I hate the feeling of transition from summer to winter. When does training camp start? Do we get a captain this year?
 
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.

I have to be honest, I really don't have a strong opinion here.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.

I have to be honest, I really don't have a strong opinion here.

Well, how about that.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.
I drank 6 triples in Rowdy's first 8 at bats and then I got Rowdy
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.

I have to say that his ability to run while being an overweight baseball player is perhaps the bigger marvel.  Rowdy is not a small man.
 
L K said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's maybe Useless Thread material, but a friend who is equally a baseball fan and hockey fan texted me that he thinks that Rowdy Tellez hitting 6 doubles in his first 8 at-bats isa  more impressive debut than Matthews scoring 4 goals in his first game, and I feel that that Nik the Trik should somehow be involved in the debate.

I have to say that his ability to run while being an overweight baseball player is perhaps the bigger marvel.  Rowdy is not a small man.

So you're saying he could've had 6 triples in 8 at-bats?
 
https://twitter.com/sportsnet650/status/1039668860662644736

Rogers: Elliotte, it?s been 72 days since Tavares signed with the Leafs; don?t you think it?s been a bit slow since then?

Friedman: Say no more.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/sportsnet650/status/1039668860662644736

Rogers: Elliotte, it?s been 72 days since Tavares signed with the Leafs; don?t you think it?s been a bit slow since then?

Friedman: Say no more.

Like, who wouldn't kick Melnyk's tires on this?  What a bunch of nothing.  Just a preview of the crazed speculation come Trade Deadline time.
 

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