2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
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herman
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Babcock doesn't run top 6/bottom 6, per se, but he does like offensive AB/defensive AB, with matchup expectations of Offensive A and scoring expectations of defensive A. Largely because he didn't trust the regular season centres for both B lines, they were the most heavily sheltered.
Last year:
Offensive A: Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Offensive B: JvR - Bozak - Marner/Brown
Defensive A: Marleau - Kadri - Marner/Komarov
Defensive B: Komarov/Johnsson - Plekanec/Moore - Kapanen
Last year:
Offensive A: Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Offensive B: JvR - Bozak - Marner/Brown
Defensive A: Marleau - Kadri - Marner/Komarov
Defensive B: Komarov/Johnsson - Plekanec/Moore - Kapanen
Highlander
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But I want a team built with Truculence and Testosterone. Burke???disco said:
Highlander
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True but the last time I was Belligerent I had the s__t beaten out of me.disco said:
Bullfrog
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I don't have access to the Athletic, but I might consider this:
Dermott-Rielly
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Hainsey
I can anticipate Dermott being the most controversial, but it's more about keeping Gardiner and Rielly apart, which I think is the right move. Hainsey just doesn't have the puck-moving ability to be on the top pairing.
Dermott-Rielly
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Hainsey
I can anticipate Dermott being the most controversial, but it's more about keeping Gardiner and Rielly apart, which I think is the right move. Hainsey just doesn't have the puck-moving ability to be on the top pairing.
Coco-puffs
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How would I slot them:
Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott - Holl
Marincin - Zaitsev
How would I slot them knowing there ain't no way Babcock isn't putting Hainsey in the lineup and the chances that Holl actually make the lineup are kinda low:
Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Carrick
One interesting thing I learned over the summer is that Holl actually took a ton of PK shifts with the Marlies. That might actually gain him a spot if he shows he can do it at the NHL level.
Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott - Holl
Marincin - Zaitsev
How would I slot them knowing there ain't no way Babcock isn't putting Hainsey in the lineup and the chances that Holl actually make the lineup are kinda low:
Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Carrick
One interesting thing I learned over the summer is that Holl actually took a ton of PK shifts with the Marlies. That might actually gain him a spot if he shows he can do it at the NHL level.
Coco-puffs said:
Babcock used Marincin on the PK quite a bit whenever he was up and was always pretty complimentary of his abilities there too, so that could give him an edge as well.
I'm sorta expecting things to be fairly status-quo next seaon, at least to start:
Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Marincin
Coco-puffs
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CarltonTheBear said:
I'd bet my left hand that Marincin WILL NOT be the guy to switch sides if those two are a pair.
Coco-puffs said:
Babcock has used him on the right side previously IIRC and I think his MO is that he'll always move the "safer" guy over first, but yeah I'd prefer Dermott to be the one that shifts over.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yes he has and the results were not very good IIRC. Then again, Babcock could convince himself that it was more the mental side of things for Marincin and now that he seems to have gotten his confidence back he could try it again- but I'd rather not play with that fire. If you want him to maintain his confidence, put him on his strong side.
Two seasons now and we have done nothing externally to address the D. I think our D is brutal, it's been our downfall and will continue to be so. I suppose we think we will just kill teams with possession and scoring. Probably some truth to that but we still need D.Coco-puffs said:
Hainsey 2 minute penalty kills? No thanks.
Andersen will have to be our MVP with all the grenades this D corp throws. What's the Shannaplan for our D? Bouwmeester? Sbisa? Hamhuis? Emelin?
Surely something can be done to improve this group.
herman
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Coco-puffs said:
This is pretty much how I'd do it too.
I'd also be open to
Rielly - Dermott
Gardiner - Holl (Minnesotaaaaaaa)/Carrick
Marincin - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott - Zaitsev/Carrick
Marincin - Holl/Carrick
PP options*: Rielly, Gardiner, Dermott, Carrick, Zaitsev
PK options: Marincin, Zaitsev, Holl, Rielly
* Seeing as how the PP is driven through the right half wall, an LD at the top of the umbrella is preferred.
Guilt Trip
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Anyone think Rosen could be in the lineup? From what I saw, he looked very good for the Marlies. By all acoounts, Borgman also improved a lot going down to learn the small ice surface. Is there a chance 1 of them slots in and maybe Jake or Reilly moves to the right side? How about Ozhiganov, or Holl?
BlueWhiteBlood
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He was kind of raw, but I actually liked Borgman's game. I like that he hits to take the puck and he skates decently well. I actually thought for his first time over here, he did a pretty good job with the 40+ games he got.
I like Borgman over Rosen, but I'm thinking that they are going to give a few of them a good look in camp and through preseason. Ozhiganov, Holl and Borgman could take the 7th spot. I think Liljgren would have to play in the top 4 to make the team, but he could surprise.
My first choice would be to trade for a youngish top 2 guy, but we may not have the cap moving forward..
I like Borgman over Rosen, but I'm thinking that they are going to give a few of them a good look in camp and through preseason. Ozhiganov, Holl and Borgman could take the 7th spot. I think Liljgren would have to play in the top 4 to make the team, but he could surprise.
My first choice would be to trade for a youngish top 2 guy, but we may not have the cap moving forward..