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2018-2019 NHL Thread

Nik the Trik said:
Seriously though, if the best a Sports team can do is 79% it doesn't look great for any of them.
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The article mentioned "the average for all charities examined by CIC is 75 cents" so at least MLSE is a little above that. I don't know what the heck Calgary and Ottawa are doing. Oddly enough both of those teams are of course trying to get their cities to build them new arenas while boasting about how great they are with the community.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
Seriously though, if the best a Sports team can do is 79% it doesn't look great for any of them.
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The article mentioned "the average for all charities examined by CIC is 75 cents" so at least MLSE is a little above that. I don't know what the heck Calgary and Ottawa are doing. Oddly enough both of those teams are of course trying to get their cities to build them new arenas while boasting about how great they are with the community.
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Sure, but that average would include "charities" that are effectively frauds. The really top rate charities are at 90% or better.

So it's not terrible or anything but it's certainly not a number a non-profit sector person would hold up as an achievement.
 
Bender said:
So Gourde signed 6yr extension for 5.1M. Thoughts?
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Really good for him and getting some recognition for the work he has put in. Pretty much all UFA years at price is quite good.
 
https://twitter.com/heybarber/status/1058476352175669248

Choke up for more control. That toe hook though...  :o
 
I don?t know if it?s John Stevens? fault that the Kings are committed to old, heavy players leading to team slowness, and that their starting goaltender is broken, but he?s out 1 month into the season. Willie Desjardins is the interim coach now, with the intriguing addition of Marco Sturm as an assistant.
 
Milan Lucic getting his own retribution after Tampa's Mathieu Joseph hit Kris Russell near the boards from behind (can't find video of that hit yet):

https://twitter.com/BradyTrett/status/1060005708404424705

Lucic slashes him, tracks him around the ice, levels him despite not having the puck, and then proceeds to punch him in the head as Joseph lays on the ice. Lucic got 2 for interference, 2 for roughing, and a 10 minute misconduct.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Milan Lucic getting his own retribution after Tampa's Mathieu Joseph hit Kris Russell near the boards from behind (can't find video of that hit yet):

https://twitter.com/BradyTrett/status/1060005708404424705

Lucic slashes him, tracks him around the ice, levels him despite not having the puck, and then proceeds to punch him in the head as Joseph lays on the ice. Lucic got 2 for interference, 2 for roughing, and a 10 minute misconduct.
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I don't see any punches. Are they going to suspend him for stalking? Going to be an interesting call when Marchand got nothing for tracking down Ellars and pounding him. Which is worse?
 
Guilt Trip said:
I don't see any punches. Are they going to suspend him for stalking? Going to be an interesting call when Marchand got nothing for tracking down Ellars and pounding him. Which is worse?
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https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1060004684642115584

I mean it wasn't a knock-out punch but that sure looks like one at the end of that gif. Plus who the heck knows what he was doing after that when he was sitting on his body with the camera to his back. But yeah even regardless, "stalking" a player and then blindside hitting him without the puck as an act of clear retribution should be grounds for a suspension by itself.

The pretty obvious difference between this and the Marchand/Eller thing was that Eller wasn't lying defencelessly on the ice and was at least able to fight back (even if he absolutely didn't want to). Although personally yeah that would have been a suspension for me.

The league did announce that he'll have a phone hearing, so there will probably be some sort of suspension handed down.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
I don't see any punches. Are they going to suspend him for stalking? Going to be an interesting call when Marchand got nothing for tracking down Ellars and pounding him. Which is worse?
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https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1060004684642115584

I mean it wasn't a knock-out punch but that sure looks like one at the end of that gif. Plus who the heck knows what he was doing after that when he was sitting on his body with the camera to his back. But yeah even regardless, "stalking" a player and then blindside hitting him without the puck as an act of clear retribution should be grounds for a suspension by itself.

The pretty obvious difference between this and the Marchand/Eller thing was that Eller wasn't lying defencelessly on the ice and was at least able to fight back (even if he absolutely didn't want to). Although personally yeah that would have been a suspension for me.

The league did announce that he'll have a phone hearing, so there will probably be some sort of suspension handed down.
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Def better angle there. He'll probably get 2 games. More if he was throwing bombs.
 
Haha.. Overdrive was discussing the Lucic fine. He got fined $10K for scaring a kid. Apparently Joseph was running around hitting anyone and everyone and was offered to dance a few times but kept turning it down so Lucic had enough. Like they said he scared him because he sure didn't punch him out because the kid would still be laying there. They basically called the fine a joke. Said if you're going to go around being a big man hitting players, you're going to have to stand up for yourself at some point because guys will retaliate.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Haha.. Overdrive was discussing the Lucic fine. He got fined $10K for scaring a kid. Apparently Joseph was running around hitting anyone and everyone and was offered to dance a few times but kept turning it down so Lucic had enough. Like they said he scared him because he sure didn't punch him out because the kid would still be laying there. They basically called the fine a joke. Said if you're going to go around being a big man hitting players, you're going to have to stand up for yourself at some point because guys will retaliate.
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God I can't wait until these morons die off from having any sort of impact on the game.  You aren't entitled to punch someone in the face and asking them to be allowed to punch you in the face and getting turned down isn't an invitation to do it.  Hits are legal in the game.  Stop with this damn nonsense that clean hits entitle dirty punches.
 
If Joseph gets seriously injured, Milan Lucic is the new Todd Bertuzzi. Lucic did the exact same thing Todd did. Didn't he get a season? That play was incredibly predatory, and a perfect example of what the NHL needs to get rid of. 10k isn't even close. No one in the NHL is obligated to fight with anyone.
 
L K said:
Guilt Trip said:
Haha.. Overdrive was discussing the Lucic fine. He got fined $10K for scaring a kid. Apparently Joseph was running around hitting anyone and everyone and was offered to dance a few times but kept turning it down so Lucic had enough. Like they said he scared him because he sure didn't punch him out because the kid would still be laying there. They basically called the fine a joke. Said if you're going to go around being a big man hitting players, you're going to have to stand up for yourself at some point because guys will retaliate.
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God I can't wait until these morons die off from having any sort of impact on the game.  You aren't entitled to punch someone in the face and asking them to be allowed to punch you in the face and getting turned down isn't an invitation to do it.  Hits are legal in the game.  Stop with this damn nonsense that clean hits entitle dirty punches.
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Apparently the hit on Russel wasn't clean. Not defending, just saying what I heard.
Just heard Ray Ferraro say Lucic wasn't too bright and should have waited until there was a scrum and punched him in the face then if he wanted to send a message. Same message but a lot cheaper and wouldn't have cost him the extra penalties.

spiderbob said:
If Joseph gets seriously injured, Milan Lucic is the new Todd Bertuzzi. Lucic did the exact same thing Todd did. Didn't he get a season? That play was incredibly predatory, and a perfect example of what the NHL needs to get rid of. 10k isn't even close. No one in the NHL is obligated to fight with anyone.
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That's a big reach. What Lucic actually did to Joseph isn't even in the same league of the Bert incident. The only comparable to Bertuzzi is the hunting down action. He didn't jump him from behind or drive his head face first into the ice or continually pound him. If this was anything close to that incident, there's no way in hell the NHL just gives him a fine.


 
Guilt Trip said:
spiderbob said:
If Joseph gets seriously injured, Milan Lucic is the new Todd Bertuzzi. Lucic did the exact same thing Todd did. Didn't he get a season? That play was incredibly predatory, and a perfect example of what the NHL needs to get rid of. 10k isn't even close. No one in the NHL is obligated to fight with anyone.
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That's a big reach. What Lucic actually did to Joseph isn't even in the same league of the Bert incident. The only comparable to Bertuzzi is the hunting down action. He didn't jump him from behind or drive his head face first into the ice or continually pound him. If this was anything close to that incident, there's no way in hell the NHL just gives him a fine.
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Followed him around the ice slashing and chirping asking him to fight(which Joseph is not obligated to oblige no matter what you think of his previous hit), hit him with a blind side hit, jumped on top of him, and hit him at least once which is pretty apparent in the second gif. The only difference is the outcome with no injury.
 
spiderbob said:
Guilt Trip said:
spiderbob said:
If Joseph gets seriously injured, Milan Lucic is the new Todd Bertuzzi. Lucic did the exact same thing Todd did. Didn't he get a season? That play was incredibly predatory, and a perfect example of what the NHL needs to get rid of. 10k isn't even close. No one in the NHL is obligated to fight with anyone.
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That's a big reach. What Lucic actually did to Joseph isn't even in the same league of the Bert incident. The only comparable to Bertuzzi is the hunting down action. He didn't jump him from behind or drive his head face first into the ice or continually pound him. If this was anything close to that incident, there's no way in hell the NHL just gives him a fine.
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Followed him around the ice slashing and chirping asking him to fight(which Joseph is not obligated to oblige no matter what you think of his previous hit), hit him with a blind side hit, jumped on top of him, and hit him at least once which is pretty apparent in the second gif. The only difference is the outcome with no injury.
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Well we see things differently.
 
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