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2018-2019 NHL Thread

Bates said:
Zee said:
Tampa is on pace for 132 points, hey now

It's really gonna sting for them when the Leaf's knock them out of playoffs!!!!

We're not as playoff battle hardened, but we're probably the team they're actually sort of not excited to face.
 
Bates said:
Zee said:
Tampa is on pace for 132 points, hey now

It's really gonna sting for them when the Leaf's knock them out of playoffs!!!!

How does the seeding work if say Tampa gets upset by the wild card team?

Let's say Leafs finish #2 and beat the #3 team and Tampa loses to the wildcard, do the Leafs get the wild card team next?
 
Zee said:
How does the seeding work if say Tampa gets upset by the wild card team?

Let's say Leafs finish #2 and beat the #3 team and Tampa loses to the wildcard, do the Leafs get the wild card team next?

That's correct. Playoffs don't re-seed under this format.
 
Zee said:
Bates said:
Zee said:
Tampa is on pace for 132 points, hey now

It's really gonna sting for them when the Leaf's knock them out of playoffs!!!!

How does the seeding work if say Tampa gets upset by the wild card team?

Let's say Leafs finish #2 and beat the #3 team and Tampa loses to the wildcard, do the Leafs get the wild card team next?

I think It's done by bracket all the way through so advantage goes to upsetter??
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
How does the seeding work if say Tampa gets upset by the wild card team?

Let's say Leafs finish #2 and beat the #3 team and Tampa loses to the wildcard, do the Leafs get the wild card team next?

That's correct. Playoffs don't re-seed under this format.

Part of my lifelong suffering as a Leafs fan somewhat expects that dream scenario only to be dashed in the 2nd round.

Example, Leafs get Boston in round 1, FINALLY get over the hump, jubilation ensues as we see Tampa lose to some wild card team like the Islanders or Habs, and we start envisioning the road to the finals..and then Leafs lose in the 2nd round to one of the above mentioned teams.

Just had a thought, remember how stone-faced Lou was in the press box during the playoffs, not even flinching when the Leafs scored an OT winner?  I can see him jumping up and down, fist pumping and doing the "woo!!!" as the Islanders knock off the Leafs...I'm a sick man.
 
herman said:
We're not as playoff battle hardened, but we're probably the team they're actually sort of not excited to face.

We did outshoot them 49-21 in the only meeting so far. Obviously thanks to some posts and Vasilevskiy channeling 1990s Dominik Hasek the game didn't go our way but that was arguably Tampa's toughest match-up of the season.
 
Zee said:
Part of my lifelong suffering as a Leafs fan somewhat expects that dream scenario only to be dashed in the 2nd round.

Example, Leafs get Boston in round 1, FINALLY get over the hump, jubilation ensues as we see Tampa lose to some wild card team like the Islanders or Habs, and we start envisioning the road to the finals..and then Leafs lose in the 2nd round to one of the above mentioned teams.

Just had a thought, remember how stone-faced Lou was in the press box during the playoffs, not even flinching when the Leafs scored an OT winner?  I can see him jumping up and down, fist pumping and doing the "woo!!!" as the Islanders knock off the Leafs...I'm a sick man.

You might need to talk about all this to a therapist or something.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
Part of my lifelong suffering as a Leafs fan somewhat expects that dream scenario only to be dashed in the 2nd round.

Example, Leafs get Boston in round 1, FINALLY get over the hump, jubilation ensues as we see Tampa lose to some wild card team like the Islanders or Habs, and we start envisioning the road to the finals..and then Leafs lose in the 2nd round to one of the above mentioned teams.

Just had a thought, remember how stone-faced Lou was in the press box during the playoffs, not even flinching when the Leafs scored an OT winner?  I can see him jumping up and down, fist pumping and doing the "woo!!!" as the Islanders knock off the Leafs...I'm a sick man.

You might need to talk about all this to a therapist or something.

I know, there must be some condition where I always fear the worst possible outcome for my hockey team.  Not really the  worst like finishing dead last, but bringing you as a fan to the hopes of something great happening only to be dashed in the end.
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
How does the seeding work if say Tampa gets upset by the wild card team?

Let's say Leafs finish #2 and beat the #3 team and Tampa loses to the wildcard, do the Leafs get the wild card team next?

That's correct. Playoffs don't re-seed under this format.

Part of my lifelong suffering as a Leafs fan somewhat expects that dream scenario only to be dashed in the 2nd round.

Example, Leafs get Boston in round 1, FINALLY get over the hump, jubilation ensues as we see Tampa lose to some wild card team like the Islanders or Habs, and we start envisioning the road to the finals..and then Leafs lose in the 2nd round to one of the above mentioned teams.

Just had a thought, remember how stone-faced Lou was in the press box during the playoffs, not even flinching when the Leafs scored an OT winner?  I can see him jumping up and down, fist pumping and doing the "woo!!!" as the Islanders knock off the Leafs...I'm a sick man.

I mean, what you describe is a very Leafs thing to do.  :-\
 
https://twitter.com/ChrisKuc/status/1081385463334744069

Two Chicago beat reporters talking about the promotion of a former depth NHLer and one-time Blackhawk from AHL assistant to NHL assistant coach. You know just once in a situation like this I'd love to hear the media be like "yeah everyone knows this guy's a douche".
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/ChrisKuc/status/1081385463334744069

Two Chicago beat reporters talking about the promotion of a former depth NHLer and one-time Blackhawk from AHL assistant to NHL assistant coach. You know just once in a situation like this I'd love to hear the media be like "yeah everyone knows this guy's a douche".

The latest Leafs Report wasn't particularly glowing about Carlyle and Wilson in reference to their personability and the way players were treated re: rest.
 
herman said:
The latest Leafs Report wasn't particularly glowing about Carlyle and Wilson in reference to their personability and the way players were treated re: rest.

I don't want to speak for Carlton but I don't think he meant "...years after they've been fired".
 
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
The latest Leafs Report wasn't particularly glowing about Carlyle and Wilson in reference to their personability and the way players were treated re: rest.

I don't want to speak for Carlton but I don't think he meant "...years after they've been fired".

That?s a reasonable point. Has a hiring been recently lambasted for personality reasons?
 
Not directly NHL-related, but here's an example of when I kind of want scoring stats graded out instead of being flat 1-pt touches for G, 1A, and 2A. It'd be a chore to log (quit ea bit of subjectivity), but if done right it'd paint a more accurate picture of which players are carrying the play (i.e. Hey Mitch Marner). Let's say something like 3 pts on the statsheet to divvy, with either 2 to 0 (with halfsies) as options per involved players on the scoring play.

https://twitter.com/jaredbook/status/1082045869912936450
Here I would award 1 pt for Jill Saulnier's goal (shortside backend top cheddar into the far corner near the red line?!), and 2 pts for Marie-Philip Poulin's magic assist.
 
herman said:
Not directly NHL-related, but here's an example of when I kind of want scoring stats graded out instead of being flat 1-pt touches for G, 1A, and 2A. It'd be a chore to log (quit ea bit of subjectivity), but if done right it'd paint a more accurate picture of which players are carrying the play (i.e. Hey Mitch Marner). Let's say something like 3 pts on the statsheet to divvy, with either 2 to 0 (with halfsies) as options per involved players on the scoring play.

I get the argument here and I see what you're saying but a lot of times I feel like the examples of this, as highlighted here, are cases where "the work" being done really just translates into players getting lucky in terms of bounces/bad defense.
 
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
Not directly NHL-related, but here's an example of when I kind of want scoring stats graded out instead of being flat 1-pt touches for G, 1A, and 2A. It'd be a chore to log (quit ea bit of subjectivity), but if done right it'd paint a more accurate picture of which players are carrying the play (i.e. Hey Mitch Marner). Let's say something like 3 pts on the statsheet to divvy, with either 2 to 0 (with halfsies) as options per involved players on the scoring play.

I get the argument here and I see what you're saying but a lot of times I feel like the examples of this, as highlighted here, are cases where "the work" being done really just translates into players getting lucky in terms of bounces/bad defense.

Discerning that is the hard part. There's also something to be said for being in position and having the wherewithal to take advantage of said bounce and bad defense too. And if a player keeps getting rewarded for bounces and bad defense season by season, they just might be the reason behind them.

Anyway, I can't think of how they'd possibly break down such a scoring system to be repeatable and feasible.
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
The latest Leafs Report wasn't particularly glowing about Carlyle and Wilson in reference to their personability and the way players were treated re: rest.

I don't want to speak for Carlton but I don't think he meant "...years after they've been fired".

That?s a reasonable point. Has a hiring been recently lambasted for personality reasons?

Torts?  It's probably the 1st thing brought up about him. 
 
https://twitter.com/HockeyAgent1/status/1082756501108899840

I'd be very interested to know what the CBA would say about something like this haha.
 
Erik Karlsson is now tied for 3rd in defensive scoring. He's on a 14 game point streak with 1 goal, 24 assists, and 25 points. Imagine if he didn't have a 1.8 shooting percentage during that time! This is after scoring just 7 points in his first 18 games. Very good chance he gets another Norris nomination this season, and if the writers were smart at all he'd win it (at least based on the first half).
 

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