2018-2019 NHL Thread
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herman
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If they weren?t already done before, the Ducks are pretty much cooked now with Ondrej Kase out for the rest of the season with a torn labrum. Combined with them trading away Pontus Aberg, the Ducks are down two of their top three goal scorers on the season.
Granted their top three goal scorers had net 12, 11, and 11 goals thus far.
Granted their top three goal scorers had net 12, 11, and 11 goals thus far.
Guilt Trip
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What did the NHL screw it up?
Kin
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Yeah, I don't really get this one. It seems like the issue is the actual time she did it in which nobody is completely sure of. I appreciate that it would have been easy enough for the NHL to just write the check but they should be supporting women's hockey in a much broader sense that making a big deal out of this doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
OldTimeHockey
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I think all 4 women that took part in the competition should be paid in some fashion by the NHL. The NHL passes all their recent activity with the CWHL as them building the women's game. I see it as them using women's hockey and these talented hockey players as a marketing tool.
No one can blame Johnston, Fast, Decker and Coyne Schofeld from wanting to take part, but if you're going to bring these women in to try to attract more female viewers for your own business, they should be compensated.
No one can blame Johnston, Fast, Decker and Coyne Schofeld from wanting to take part, but if you're going to bring these women in to try to attract more female viewers for your own business, they should be compensated.
Bullfrog said:
I think that by doing this you can solve two problems at once. First, it extends the NHL's partnership with woman's hockey. Invite 4 players from that side, 2 from each league and have one play on each team. To be honest this seems like such a no-brainer to me.
Obviously you would still need even lines for each team, and they can't select less NHLers so instead take two more NHLers for each team to give 4 even lines instead of 3. This will make it easier for the NHL to have one participant from each of the 31 (soon to be 32) teams AND not have to leave off guys like Marner and Point and Giordano and such. Yeah you end up with more "all-stars" per season than they have historically, but I mean the sanctity of the all-star game was destroyed a long time ago who cares.
herman
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Broadcasts didn't even show the women involved as they were invited to merely demonstrate.
Coyne Schofield was invited by the Avs and MacKinnon to participate in full due to the latter's injury.
The NHL didn't do anything until social media (and equipment companies) shamed them into some action, and the action they took was to make a donation on behalf of each player. Donating to charity is good. Donating on behalf of a small group of people for whom it is well known that a) the NHL pays a lot of lip service to grow the market, b) players are paid a pittance and many have had to quit to stabilize their financial and life balance (they have full-time jobs usually) when they normally pay out All Star players (and event winners) is a PR/marketing misstep. That the donation amount, a mere drop in an NHL budget, was more than twice the highest salary of a N/CWHL player is extra yikes.
I think it would be wise of the NHL to partner more fully with the womens' leagues, especially for the All Star event. They want eyeballs on their own show which as become increasingly difficult. Based on last season's test run and this year's excitement (and oopsies), it's pretty clear this has weight. The All Star game style of individual skill + fancy shinny is the perfect place to showcase hockey talent regardless of sex.
Coyne Schofield was invited by the Avs and MacKinnon to participate in full due to the latter's injury.
The NHL didn't do anything until social media (and equipment companies) shamed them into some action, and the action they took was to make a donation on behalf of each player. Donating to charity is good. Donating on behalf of a small group of people for whom it is well known that a) the NHL pays a lot of lip service to grow the market, b) players are paid a pittance and many have had to quit to stabilize their financial and life balance (they have full-time jobs usually) when they normally pay out All Star players (and event winners) is a PR/marketing misstep. That the donation amount, a mere drop in an NHL budget, was more than twice the highest salary of a N/CWHL player is extra yikes.
I think it would be wise of the NHL to partner more fully with the womens' leagues, especially for the All Star event. They want eyeballs on their own show which as become increasingly difficult. Based on last season's test run and this year's excitement (and oopsies), it's pretty clear this has weight. The All Star game style of individual skill + fancy shinny is the perfect place to showcase hockey talent regardless of sex.
Kin
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Does it really matter if the NHL doesn't seem to particularly care about the women's game regardless? You're bringing them to the All-Star game to promote what? A league the NHL doesn't care about?
The NBA has been in the business of Women's Basketball for years. The NHL could be too. But pretending like some sort of halfway "Hey, why not have a few people at the all-star game so we can pretend we care" is meaningless.
The NBA has been in the business of Women's Basketball for years. The NHL could be too. But pretending like some sort of halfway "Hey, why not have a few people at the all-star game so we can pretend we care" is meaningless.
Nik the Trik said:
It wouldn't be meaningless to all the little girls watching them play.
Even if it is just a half-assed measure on the NHL's part, the effect would be huge.
herman
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Representation kind of matters, yeah?
https://twitter.com/hailey_salvian/status/1089543537195139072
Even this token effort so far makes a difference. Just because they kind of suck at it now, doesn't mean the NHL shouldn't try again and do better next time. It's like selling something through Amazon: they've got the reach and exposure to kick start something good. And it draws attention to the way the established media covers the sport too.
Pierre Maguire telling Coyne Schofield that she can bet that none of the guys want to lose to her was really something
https://twitter.com/hailey_salvian/status/1089543537195139072
Even this token effort so far makes a difference. Just because they kind of suck at it now, doesn't mean the NHL shouldn't try again and do better next time. It's like selling something through Amazon: they've got the reach and exposure to kick start something good. And it draws attention to the way the established media covers the sport too.
Pierre Maguire telling Coyne Schofield that she can bet that none of the guys want to lose to her was really something