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2020-2021 NHL Thread

Bender said:
Wonder if this is related to Torts in some way.

I get he had a connection with their GM, but Columbus seemed like such a strange choice for him. You'd think after such a long career with only 1 team a player like him would either a) sign with a legit contender for a final shot at a Cup or b) continue/finish his career back home in Finland. Columbus was very, very clearly neither of those options. Why uproot your entire life for a final season of maybe making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round? Especially during a pandemic.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Wonder if this is related to Torts in some way.

I get he had a connection with their GM, but Columbus seemed like such a strange choice for him. You'd think after such a long career with only 1 team a player like him would either a) sign with a legit contender for a final shot at a Cup or b) continue/finish his career back home in Finland. Columbus was very, very clearly neither of those options. Why uproot your entire life for a final season of maybe making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round? Especially during a pandemic.
It's weird for sure. I thought they really needed him, especially with Dubois gone. Koivu is a faceoff beast. I don't like Torts. It wouldn't be shocking that his BS was a contributing factor. Stay and play a trap style game under his regime and get publically shamed every time you cross him. Forget about it.

I should note he had a great career, over 700 points and a class act, he will be missed.
 
Koivu was always that Mats Sundin replacement I wanted to have the Leafs get years back.  Obviously not as good but just a guy who I always liked and had that laid back demeanor of just get the job done. 
 
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1359548328611110916

Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.
 
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1359548328611110916

Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.

Yeah. What an absolute failure of a signing. He was a reliable 20+ goal winger before he cashed in with that contract.
 
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.

Yeah. What an absolute failure of a signing. He was a reliable 20+ goal winger before he cashed in with that contract.

He was always known as such a great two-way player during his Dallas/Boston days too. I'm more surprised that that element of his game isn't still there than I am to see his offensive numbers dry up.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.

Yeah. What an absolute failure of a signing. He was a reliable 20+ goal winger before he cashed in with that contract.

He was always known as such a great two-way player during his Dallas/Boston days too. I'm more surprised that that element of his game isn't still there than I am to see his offensive numbers dry up.

I'm sure injuries and the fact that Vancouver has been a bad team since he signed play into it, but, part of me wonders if maybe he just stopped putting in the effort once he cashed in.
 
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1359548328611110916

Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.
No argument here. Also on that short list is Jeff Skinner, in the 2nd year of 8x9M with 1 assist in 10 games this year. Yikes.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1359548328611110916

Man, Eriksson really has to be on that short list of worst UFA signings of all time, huh? And he still has a year at 6 million left.
No argument here. Also on that short list is Jeff Skinner, in the 2nd year of 8x9M with 1 assist in 10 games this year. Yikes.

Skinner seems much worse to me.  They signed Skinner as a 26 year old to that contract.  14G 10A in 69GP so far in the contract.  He had a 31 point season with 18G in 2014-2015.  He was consistently a 50-60 point player his entire career.  I wouldn't have wanted to pay him 9M/year based on that production regardless but it's a pretty drastic drop off.


 
L K said:
Skinner seems much worse to me.  They signed Skinner as a 26 year old to that contract.  14G 10A in 69GP so far in the contract.  He had a 31 point season with 18G in 2014-2015.  He was consistently a 50-60 point player his entire career.  I wouldn't have wanted to pay him 9M/year based on that production regardless but it's a pretty drastic drop off.

Skinner might very well turn out worse but I think the thing about Eriksson is he's been bad every year of the deal. If Skinner is likewise it'll be worse but if he even has one, like, 20 goal and 60 point year he'll at least be contributing at some point.
 
Nik said:
Skinner might very well turn out worse but I think the thing about Eriksson is he's been bad every year of the deal. If Skinner is likewise it'll be worse but if he even has one, like, 20 goal and 60 point year he'll at least be contributing at some point.

Agreed. Skinner's never going to live up to that contract, but he's probably good for a couple 20+ goal, 60ish point years. He'll still be massively overpaid, and virtually everyone will cite his contract as the kind of mistake that can be made paying a player big money after an obviously unsustainable breakout year in their mid-to-late 20s, but he should still a least contribute some value.

Whereas, as things sit right now, the Canucks look like they're going to pay Eriksson $35M (a buyout would only save them $1M in real dollar, $2M in cap - I suspect they still make that move for the cap space alone, assuming they can't find a sucker a team willing to help them out) for 38-45 goals, 89-100 points, depending how much he actually plays this season.
 
Dappleganger said:
Guilt Trip said:
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/1359582297905913864

Weeeeak.
What am I missing?

Mavericks announced they're not doing the national anthems before their games.

Not entirely true.  The Mavericks haven't been doing the national anthem since the start of the year.  Someone finally commented on it and Cuban announced he wouldn't be doing it for the rest of the year......and then Adam Silver promptly sent out a release saying all 30 NBA teams will play the anthem.
 
Interesting although I think that explains away stuff like shot location being off.  I don't really understand how that accounts for raw stats like shot or hit suddenly get missed.  Recording whether the shot took place at the top of the circle vs. the hash marks isn't really something I'm super worried about.  I think teams have enough video that if they want to judge quality scoring chances they are doing it off their own data and not the NHLs.  Missing outright counting stats seems bizarre to explain away by "there are fewer of us" unless you have a guy trying to do the data for multiple games at a time.
 

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