2020-2021 NHL Thread
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Phileas Fogg
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It feels like there's essentially 3 teams dining out on the tire fires that the make up the other 3 teams. And at least 1 of those teams (ahem, edmonton) are overachieving because of those 3.
Heroic Shrimp
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Florida is 13-4-4 with a measly goal differential of +7.
Tampa is 14-4-1 with a goal differential of +30.
Their records *look* close, but they're not really close.
Tampa is 14-4-1 with a goal differential of +30.
Their records *look* close, but they're not really close.
bustaheims
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herman said:
Also, Florida is 8-1-4 in one goal games, 5-3 in games decided by more than 1 goal. Tampa is 2-0-1 is 1 goal games, 12-4 in games decided by more than one. Tampa is flat-out beating teams. Florida is largely just squeaking by them - they've also mostly had to come from behind at some point in the majority of their games, allowing the other team to score first in 14 of 21 (Tampa's not drastically better there - allowing the first goal in 9 of 19).
The Leafs, meanwhile, are 7-1-2 in one goal games, 10-3 in games decided by more than 1, and have scored first in 15 of 23.
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1366958033394401282
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
bustaheims
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Sean Burke is, supposedly, the goalie whisperer, so, maybe?
L K
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Zee said:
I mean it's possible. Goalie coaches aren't any less prone to getting tunnel vision. Torts coaches his way and doesn't adapt well to his lineup. It doesn't mean that he can't catch lightning in a bottle and win a cup. It also doesn't mean he is the guy who is going to develop Patrick Laine into an MVP.
Waite might have used up all his tricks or doesn't have a way to fix what is wrong with Price (if he is fixable)
That being said, I'm not sure why Price still gets the mystique tag attached to him when he has been just ok for a long while. He won the MVP in 2014-2015
2014-2015 - 1st in SV%
2015-2016 - Injured his MCL and only played 12 games
2016-2017 - 7th in SV%
2017-2018 - 30th in SV%
2018-2019 - 10th in SV%
2019-2020 - 13th in SV%
2020-2021 - 34th in SV% (10GP threshold)
He's still a really good goalie but he hasn't been that best goaltender for 5 years.
bustaheims
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Zee said:
Coaches get stale (for lack of a better term). It's one of those jobs that people taking them have to know that any position is going to be short-term. It's rare that any kind of coach in professional sports has a tenure that reaches into double digits these days. Coaches need to adapt and evolve along with changes to the game, players, etc., and sometimes, they need to take time away from teams to figure that out. It's easier to learn and adapt when the pressure to succeed and the stress that comes with failure aren't there, after all.
Waite may have been a great coach for Roy 7 years ago. But, 7 years is a long time in pro sports.
Guilt Trip
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The media asked him if he talked with Price before making the move. Bergevin said I don't consult with players before making moves.herman said:
OldTimeHockey
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Heroic Shrimp said:
It's a simple case of it being easier to fire the coach than the player
OldTimeHockey
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herman said:
And that sounds like Bergevin questioned Waite about why his goalies he was coaching were performing so poorly and Waite told him to go eat his hat.
Highlander
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I believe he said to eat his hair!