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2020 NHL Draft

Nik said:
I mean, there are some people who try and give Dubas credit for every good pick the team made going back to William Nylander so I'm not sure the "You can only judge him since 2018" thing entirely works for me but either way I just personally haven't walked away from any of this team's drafts since he's been with the team thinking "Man, we really did that one."

Now, I'm no draft expert and I always can be proven wrong but that's just my feelings on things and, you know, not proven wrong yet.

I mean I get what you're saying with the Dubas thing and I'm sure I've been guilty of that myself, but I feel like it's basically been established through the media that the 2015 draft was a dual effort between Hunter and Dubas, then the 2016 and 2017 drafts Lou gave Hunter full control, and then obviously from 2018 and on it was Dubas and his guys. I don't think that's really a controversial take on how things went down.

That does mean you can probably blame Dubas on the Leafs passing on Konecny and ending up with Dermott/Bracco instead. edit: and also Dermott over Aho possibly.

 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I thought Bob retired?

Semi-retired. They still wheel him out for the big stuff. He was actually on NBC's draft show last night.
Great, thanks busta & CTB.  Bob's a bright spot in the punditosphere.
 
L K said:
Korshkov is PPG in the KHL this year at least?

Seriously though. As soon as some of our picks turn into really high contributing NHLers I will be the happiest guy to say I was wrong.

Just for all the talk about what's been added to the organization over the last five years in the way of scouting/analytic information, I think the team's record is sort of bad considering. Now, maybe it's unfair of me to put that on Dubas vs. Shanahan but I do think we're still staring into the teeth of the hard reality on the ground.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1313928124565016576

Topi read Toronto's wikipedia entry before his media call.
 
Nik said:
L K said:
Korshkov is PPG in the KHL this year at least?

Seriously though. As soon as some of our picks turn into really high contributing NHLers I will be the happiest guy to say I was wrong.

Just for all the talk about what's been added to the organization over the last five years in the way of scouting/analytic information, I think the team's record is sort of bad considering. Now, maybe it's unfair of me to put that on Dubas vs. Shanahan but I do think we're still staring into the teeth of the hard reality on the ground.

That's absolutely fair.  We have been pretty good with our first round picks and really don't have a lot to show outside of the first round.  That doesn't speak super highly to our scouting team.  We have no cap space and need to have a steady stream of guys coming in and thus far the Leafs over the last few years just haven't found guys to step in to those roles.  Maybe some of the picks from the last 2-3 years pull forward but results are going to have to come soon to help the roster.

 

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