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2021-2022 NHL Thread

CarltonTheBear said:
Frank E said:
WTF indeed...and with everything that's going on with Ukraine right now.
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I feel like this just makes it less surprising that a current-era Russian national team would do this.
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I mean, it's not like Putin is doing anything to try to rebuild the USSR. Nope. Nothing to see there.
 
princedpw said:
Yes.

I?m double vaccinated and boosted.  95+% of my colleagues at work at Princeton are fully vaxed.  Everyone is tested once a week (unvaccinated twice a week) regardless of the presence of symptoms.  My understanding is that you can be extremely infectious prior to having symptoms.

The point of testing is to slow down the spread, identifying folks before they have spread it to others, which can only be done by asymptomatic testing.  If you don?t do asymptomatic testing, it will be too late and everyone on the team will get it and everyone in their families will get it.
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herman said:
princedpw summed it up. Yzerman?s suggestion, while attractive to those who are tired of pandemic measures, would cripple and crush the healthcare system and subsequently society and economy.

Under those proposed conditions, an asymptomatic person could inadvertently pass it on to another asymptomatic person who visits an immunosuppressed loved one who gets boned because people didn?t bother checking. Multiply that by a bajillion because asymptomatic people being given license to return to normal is toothpaste that won?t go back in the tube and the virus will happily take the opportunity to mutate.
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Quite honestly, this makes absolutely no sense to me, nor seems the least bit feasible.

Unless your company mandates testing as in princedpw's case, I hardly know of anyone running out to get tested with no symptoms (whether having no, one, two or three doses).  I would only go get my kids tested for school if exhibiting one symptom.  If the idea is to have everyone go out now randomly getting tested who are completely fine to pick up if they have COVID, I: a) don't see the point; and b) don't see how there is the testing capacity to facilitate such initiative.  Not to mention believing that many people out there are walking asymptomatically, which again I don't believe can or should be tested and ultimately detected since there is no capacity to do so. 
 
I agree it is not feasible currently because a) tests haven't been made readily available; b) everything is pretty much open, nominally protected by plexiglass and whatever masking is actually enforced even though this respiratory virus is airborne, hence the return to the lockdown conversation every so often. The realities of the virus don't really care about testing feasibility.

Testing is useful as an airlock measure, when you go in (and out of) a higher risk situation with close quarters or no masks or limited ventilation. The NHL's return to play protocols worked! As it stands, our testing capacity is maxed and the number of cases being reported daily is understated.

It's pretty frustrating to see that we could have been ramping up testing, contact tracing infrastructure during the first lockdown. Local public health units have done a lot with little, but imagine if test kits were readily available to everybody and not just hoarded for businesses while sitting on federal funds.
 
herman said:
I agree it is not feasible currently because a) tests haven't been made readily available; b) everything is pretty much open, nominally protected by plexiglass and whatever masking is actually enforced even though this respiratory virus is airborne, hence the return to the lockdown conversation every so often. The realities of the virus don't really care about testing feasibility.

Testing is useful as an airlock measure, when you go in (and out of) a higher risk situation with close quarters or no masks or limited ventilation. The NHL's return to play protocols worked! As it stands, our testing capacity is maxed and the number of cases being reported daily is understated.

It's pretty frustrating to see that we could have been ramping up testing, contact tracing infrastructure during the first lockdown. Local public health units have done a lot with little, but imagine if test kits were readily available to everybody and not just hoarded for businesses while sitting on federal funds.
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Yeah, I am big on the testing and contact tracing train.  Especially anyplace where there is random encounters like grocery/big box stores.  When looking at how computer viruses spread and how they pertain to how human viruses spread, one of the things that was noticed is that by being able to trace where a virus was coming from, it really allowed to predict where it was going. 
 
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1473314468251713543
https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1473333865586515975

Well not officially official yet but no NHLers at the Olympics next year.
 
Not surprising, and the right choice at this point. 

Hopefully they eventually go again when everything settles.
 
Definitely the right call. It was inevitable at this point. Hopefully things resolve to a point where the rest of the season can be played reasonably. 
 
Man, the world has really changed in the past 3 weeks.

I wonder if the NHL would consider another World Cup in 2023...
 
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1473357340678275079

Just a matter of time before this mini-pause becomes a full on shut down.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1473314468251713543
https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1473333865586515975

Well not officially official yet but no NHLers at the Olympics next year.
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Very disappointed. I understand the reasoning, but man it would have been exciting to see McDavid, Crosby & Marner on the same Olympic team. If its not happening for another 4 yrs its not happening at all.
 
https://twitter.com/DailyFaceoff/status/1473402845311426572

So there's definitely at least one coach out there thinking, "we should have a COVID party right now", right?
 
RedLeaf said:
Very disappointed. I understand the reasoning, but man it would have been exciting to see McDavid, Crosby & Marner on the same Olympic team. If its not happening for another 4 yrs its not happening at all.
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I'd be surprised if they didn't do a World Cup in 2023 like Frank said.
 
Really no other way to approach the COVID testing.  You can put people in isolation for illness but the COVID testing is unreliable for up to a few months after having COVID.
 
L K said:
Really no other way to approach the COVID testing.  You can put people in isolation for illness but the COVID testing is unreliable for up to a few months after having COVID.
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Can you clarify this statement, LK?  Like, if I get COVID, it's tough to figure out if I have it again within a few months of having it previously?
 
L K said:
Really no other way to approach the COVID testing.  You can put people in isolation for illness but the COVID testing is unreliable for up to a few months after having COVID.
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I?m guessing this has to do with antibodies remaining at an elevated level for a while and such?
 
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