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Maybe JT should just stay in Yerp.
I don't think many of those teams in the tournament could beat an NHL team.
I don't think many of those teams in the tournament could beat an NHL team.
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Rob said:Maybe JT should just stay in Yerp.
I don't think many of those teams in the tournament could beat an NHL team.
herman said:https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1794401122054017253
See this? Marner is great at passing into the slot! Too bad it?s to Joel Edmundson all the time
https://twitter.com/jhanhky/status/1794735118919303300
Oh wait, that?s why it?s always to Joel Edmundson.
RedLeaf said:I wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.
Marner is not the problem.
In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.
The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).
It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .
The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn?t come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.
RedLeaf said:I wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.
Marner is not the problem.
In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.
The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).
It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .
The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn?t come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.
archie holdsworth said:RedLeaf said:I wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.
Marner is not the problem.
In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.
The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).
It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .
The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn?t come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.
I'm on the same page as you and others who aren't looking to run Marner out of town.
I can't say that the Leafs should keep Marner no matter what. If a value for value trade came up that made lots of sense for the Leafs and for Marner, then sure, you would at least look at it. But this idea of shoving Marner out the door, just because? It's not a good idea.
The Leafs have enough cap space to fix some of their problems. They should address finding a top pairing defenseman. They need at least a 1A goaltender. All the issues that need fixing aren't going to be accomplished in one off-season.
After next season, the Tavares contract will be off the books or re-negotiated. The cap will probably take a much bigger jump. There should be room for further changes. I know Matthews is only signed for 4 more years, but that's a problem for down the road. Remember when he was apparently going to Phoenix for sure? If he likes how the team is developing, he's probably going to stick around.
The Leafs should be looking at re-signing Marner. There will be a salary bump. Leafs fans shouldn't fly off the handle when he gets that.
Bender said:Letting him walk for nothing should not be considered an option.
Bender said:herman said:https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1794401122054017253
See this? Marner is great at passing into the slot! Too bad it?s to Joel Edmundson all the time
https://twitter.com/jhanhky/status/1794735118919303300
Oh wait, that?s why it?s always to Joel Edmundson.
J "but the chart says" Fresh needs to sit down.
princedpw said:Not all passes to the slot may be equal in value, but the fact that he?s #2 on the list still probably tells us something.
Humans look for simple single explanations to complex phenomena and sometimes there just aren?t single simple explanations. The media and the fans are being far too hard on a single guy.
Keefe: ?When teams play the Leafs, they set up the game for the Leafs to beat themselves?
Bullfrog said:Bender said:Letting him walk for nothing should not be considered an option.
Well, it IS an option. One that's out of their control.
bustaheims said:I don't think the Leafs should be looking to offload Marner, regardless of the return or other factors. That's just silly talk. He's too good a player for that, and some posters are being too glib about that.
That being said, with basically everyone who saw significant time with the Leafs this past season other than Matthews, Nylander, and Knies, the Leafs need to be willing to move on if doing so improves the team as a whole. While you're never going to get a Marner-level talent in return, it's quite possible that the sum of the parts returning could be more helpful in the team reaching their ultimate goal than Marner alone. The team as it is right now is flawed. There's only so much tinkering that can be done around the margins before you have to start looking at swapping out core pieces, and, I think that's where the Leafs are right now. Just about every option needs to be on the table.