If changes aren't made to the core and hopefully Shanahan as well I'm done with this team. I really am shocked by some who want to roll this shit back. It hasn't worked for how many years. What makes any of you think things will change. You build a team to win a cup not the presidents trophy and then can't win. What you see is what you get with these guys. They've had ample time to grow some balls and figure it out but they can't so move on.
Lots of players have shut down contract talks during the season and still re-signed. With that said I don't think this will be one of those times.
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Of course that's true, but with the history of Marner with his agent and reading the tea leaves you think things would have to break a certain way for him to come back, and when you're presented with what's been reported as being the richest contract in team history and you don't sign when it's offered there's some information to be gleaned there.
I was listening to JD Bunkis a few days ago and he's right - there's been an air of "We're smarter than the fans" and "The fans are the problem" being driven by the organization and I think people are fed up with it, especially when we could've gotten some assets back from a Marner or Nylander deal and instead he walks for nothing. Many of us saw this scenario play out.
Many of us saw this exact scenario coming. Keith Pelley rolled out the tired “I just got here” excuse last year, like a CEO walking into a company that’s tanked for 9 straight quarters and saying, “Let’s stay the course.” Come on. Any real leader would’ve walked in and lit a fire. The idea that nothing needed to change because he wasn’t around during the dysfunction is ridiculous.
I watch a lot less and cannot stomach the swag. It has to affect their bottom line. Arn mentioned he's watching less. There has to be lots of us that just don't give a crap about this group anymore. 100 points, 69 goals who gives a crap, playoff wins is all I care about and this rerun sucks.
Absolutely. As part of the older crowd, of which I'm firmly a member, I find myself watching fewer and fewer Leafs games each season. Every year, you invest time and hope, thinking this time might be different, only to be let down when it matters most.
Great minds...if we really want to move on from Kampf/Jarnkrok as you said, I think they both can be traded, Jarnkrok easier than Kampf. But they also carry smaller cap hits if they are waived to the minors. Normally I'm not a fan of being ruthless but I'd rather see the team make those harsh decisions.
I was trying to find players with a similar contract to Rielly's that could also maybe benefit from a change of scenery. Mika Zibanejad was the only centre who popped up. They're both signed for 5 more years. Zibanejad is 1 year older and has a $8.5mil AAV vs. Rielly's $7.5mil AAV. Rangers have been rumoured to be possibly looking to move him and aren't particularly strong at LD. Zibanejad could also fill some of Marner's roles on the team as he'd consistently been a top unit penalty killer and has also experimented with being a PP QB at times.
I never said I disliked Dreger or anyone else. I asked for a source that stated he was offered and turned down 13.5x8. There isn't one. Speculation, just like some insider guy saying Marner will be traded 100% last off season, means nothing. Not defending 16 but he said from last summer he is not negotiating during the season, his agent will deal with it. Nothing has changed from him. Nobody knows anything about contract offers and such.. all to get clicksMitch Marner and the Maple Leafs: A breakup is for the best
All signs are pointing to Marner leaving Toronto in free agency. Why it's the best thing for all involved.
Part of me doesn't even want to bother replying to this because we obviously rely on the reporting of others, who generally cannot just name their actual sources if it isn't official, and if you don't believe it because you're not a fan of someone like Darren Dreger - who didn't write the article by the way - then that's not my problem. The exact dollar figure is speculation, but it is fact that the Leafs tried to extend him, and the extension would have been the most in team history according to this article.
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